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Basic Timestamps:

00:00 Start 09:00 Sharky 28:00 Flexible Web 42:00 Smart Glances 50:00 Wrap up Sign off

Full Transcription: [Vision Forward] 11:02:14 Welcome to vision forwards, tech, connect, live, connecting you to the world of assistive technology.

[Vision Forward] 11:02:20 And now here are your hosts, Corey and Lou.

[Vision Forward] 11:02:29 Hello! Hello! Hello! Hello! Hi!

[Vision Forward] 11:02:34 Hello! How's everybody doing this morning? It is Thursday, June twenty-first, 2023, and that can only mean one thing.

[Vision Forward] 11:02:47 Time, and that can only mean one thing, time for tech talk a little time for tech, connect, live.

[Vision Forward] 11:02:54 We potentially are having good Jonathan. If you could confirm my troops, I just heard so over there, hey?

[Vision Forward] 11:03:02 He must be Ok. Hello, everybody. Hello, good! So welcome. Hello! Apologist to those on Youtube who did not hear our lovely intro music.

[Vision Forward] 11:03:09 Hopefully, we'll get that rectified for the next session.

[Vision Forward] 11:03:12 Something always has to go wrong. But luckily this was a fairly minor thing.

[Vision Forward] 11:03:17 So that is good, and thank you to everybody who completed our survey as well.

[Vision Forward] 11:03:20 With me, too. Yeah, we did send out a survey with requests for ideas about where to take the show's direction, and we are probably going to make some small changes just to improve the show for those who enjoy it, and hopefully bring on that some do you know what the most requested change was go ahead let me know no, more

[Vision Forward] 11:03:40 jokes, yes, it was, sadly. People don't seem to like jokes so much the jokes, but more just all of the chatting upfront.

[Vision Forward] 11:03:49 So we are gonna try and get into the show a little bit more quickly and apologies to those who did enjoy those well, and I get it.

[Vision Forward] 11:03:56 It is when we started this it was during Covid 3 years ago.

[Vision Forward] 11:03:59 People, were at home. They had a little more spare time.

[Vision Forward] 11:04:01 Yeah, now, people are connecting in the midst of work or whatever they might be doing and so they want to just get right to the information. Totally understand that.

[Vision Forward] 11:04:12 So we are going to speed up our beginning. As we keep talking about I know, I think I think we have some further conversation to have, as well regarding show length and topics.

[Vision Forward] 11:04:27 Yeah, if you didn't fill out the survey, please do so.

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[Vision Forward] 11:05:09 I assume people can fill it out more than once if they are feeling the fact as many times as they'd like I probably shouldn't have told them that so anyway, today we are talking about jaws, and some of the feature full features.

[Vision Forward] 11:05:20 Yes, in jaws. So jaws is a screen, reader, for those who are not aware which is probably no one.

[Vision Forward] 11:05:24 I imagine everybody on this show is aware of jaws, and it does have some really nice features that I don't think are necessarily all that explored.

[Vision Forward] 11:05:31 Yeah, I think a lot of the features that we're looking to look at today are these features that have been introduced over?

[Vision Forward] 11:05:36 Maybe the past 4 or 5 years. They're not really like mainstay features.

[Vision Forward] 11:05:41 Everyone sort of jars, I think, is a lot like other programs where there's so much it does.

[Vision Forward] 11:05:46 But you really just utilize what you know, or what you've been taught, and some of these other features, like smart glances, flexible web, and and the voice assistant are things that have been introduced more recently.

[Vision Forward] 11:06:01 And you just may not have really gotten understanding of either how they work or what they do.

[Vision Forward] 11:06:06 And so that's what we wanted to highlight today.

[Vision Forward] 11:06:08 I think as a trainer, it's easy to get stuck in a rut with just teaching what you know, and not taking advantage of the newer features.

[Vision Forward] 11:06:16 But then that's doing a disservice to your clients.

[Vision Forward] 11:06:19 And as a user, I mean, it's the same type of thing.

[Vision Forward] 11:06:22 There might be features which you haven't explored, because you are used to using whatever you know so hopefully, this will be some new information for people and make them even more powerful.

[Vision Forward] 11:06:30 Screw, read a users just like Corey here I am, Corey, the power man. I am Mr.

[Vision Forward] 11:06:35 Screen reader, that my friends, hey, Mr. Screen reader, please tell me that's true.

[Vision Forward] 11:06:47 Howdy do you say? Hey, Mr. Mr. So so yeah, what we've got in store call?

[Vision Forward] 11:06:51 So we're going to jump in now on the title of this session.

[Vision Forward] 11:06:55 We're going to jump in now on our on the title of of this session we included a few different cool features.

[Vision Forward] 11:06:58 We included flexible web, touchscreen support, smart glances. Yes, and Sharkey.

[Vision Forward] 11:07:06 Yeah. The voice assistant yes. Now, at the top of the maybe I shouldn't say this, but right at the top I'm going to say we're not really going to touch on touchscreen touch on.

[Vision Forward] 11:07:16 We're not really going to cover touchscreen support in this session.

[Vision Forward] 11:07:19 Number one. I realize that I don't have a touch screen laptop super handy.

[Vision Forward] 11:07:24 So it's gonna be kind of. I don't want to just sit and talk about the different gestures.

[Vision Forward] 11:07:28 So we will do an upcoming session on touchscreen plus.

[Vision Forward] 11:07:31 Actually, I think, touchscreen itself could almost take an hour there's a lot of different gestures and stuff so today we're going to look at 3 specific features that might be overlooked.

[Vision Forward] 11:07:43 That's flexible web, smart glances and Sharkey, or the Voices Assistant.

[Vision Forward] 11:07:48 So that's what we're going to jump into today.

[Vision Forward] 11:07:49 So I will say, even though we are cutting down the intros, we are still going to have a joke.

[Vision Forward] 11:07:53 But today, oh, yeah, today, Sharkie is going to jump right in. Oh, well, he's listening to you right away.

[Vision Forward] 11:08:01 So why don't we go ahead and jump right into that piece?

[Vision Forward] 11:08:04 So 1, 2, 3, 4. Let's did that do it?

[Vision Forward] 11:08:10 No, which one is that one. I think it's an excellent luck.

[Vision Forward] 11:08:13 Let me. I think you've got the right one. Actually.

[Vision Forward] 11:08:14 PC, is that one muted? Now? Yeah, so if you go ahead and use jols here, if people could let us know in the chats whether they can hear jaws.

[Vision Forward] 11:08:20 Ok, that would be a problem. I'll just type something oops.

[Vision Forward] 11:08:25 Hello! Document one. There we go! Hello, everyone! Everyone exclaim. So let us know. In the chat.

[Vision Forward] 11:08:34 If you are able to hear that. Ok, we are making our computer.

[Vision Forward] 11:08:37 And I think it should be, okay. Yeah, just let us know.

[Vision Forward] 11:08:39 So let's jump in here and just let me know if there's an issue. So they have released.

[Vision Forward] 11:08:44 I believe it was in jaws 2021. They are released.

[Vision Forward] 11:08:48 A voice assistant for both jaws and for zoom, text, or fusion and jaws.

[Vision Forward] 11:08:55 It's called Sharkey is the kind of key phrase, and in zoom it's Zoomie now.

[Vision Forward] 11:09:03 First and foremost, I actually sort of like both of them, but I will say I got an issue with the sharky and soothe me. The names.

[Vision Forward] 11:09:11 Yeah, I get, why they chose it. But I just got a real issue.

[Vision Forward] 11:09:16 I like shocking, because it reminds me of the cartoon shocking!

[Vision Forward] 11:09:18 And, George, okay, I'm not sure if you I don't think that was in a American.

[Vision Forward] 11:09:21 I wasn't sure. Yeah. So Shaki and George, they were crime fighters, and they were in the sea because Sharkie was a shock.

[Vision Forward] 11:09:29 And George. What was George? Just a fish of some sort? I don't have a better way.

[Vision Forward] 11:09:32 They swam through the ocean, and solving crime. There's a lot better crime.

[Vision Forward] 11:09:39 So so released in 2021 and basically it's freedom, scientific version of the voice assistant.

[Vision Forward] 11:09:44 What I wanna do real quickly is just show you where you can go to turn it on, and where some of the settings are.

[Vision Forward] 11:09:50 So I'm going to go into my jaws. Menu.

[Vision Forward] 11:09:54 Here draws context, menu. And we're going to utilities, utilities, submenu.

[Vision Forward] 11:09:58 And actually, let's slow that down, leaving it slower, slower.

[Vision Forward] 11:10:01 There we go, joyous context utilities. Submenu. Yeah, we'll go into utilities.

[Vision Forward] 11:10:05 Josh Tandon, a voice assistant submit, and the second options.

[Vision Forward] 11:10:10 Voice assistant, let's go on in here. Talk to jaws in search, plus alt plus space.

[Vision Forward] 11:10:14 Now, here's one method for you to engage the voice assistant is by going in here and actually choosing this option, which I find to be a little bit cumbersome is it a keyboard? Chk? Yeah, yeah.

[Vision Forward] 11:10:26 Or just coming right into the that would be great. Yeah. So we're going to go down.

[Vision Forward] 11:10:30 Though to settings settings Dot, and let's just take a peek real quick.

[Vision Forward] 11:10:34 Enter leaving Menus voice assistant Settings dialog enable voice assistant check box, check, for we want to make sure that this enable voice assistant checkbox is checked.

[Vision Forward] 11:10:44 Otherwise we'll be just talking to our computer, and nothing will be happening.

[Vision Forward] 11:10:48 Listen for wake word sharky radio. Button checked 2 of 2.

[Vision Forward] 11:10:53 So we have 2 options. Here we have listen for the wake word, or we can choose the other option.

[Vision Forward] 11:10:58 Listen for wait words, Sharkey radio, button check. So basically, you can choose from.

[Vision Forward] 11:11:02 Hey! Followed by the wake word, or just the wake word itself.

[Vision Forward] 11:11:06 Litigin so I'm going to choose the one with Hey?

[Vision Forward] 11:11:11 Do not listen for weight, ward, checkbox, Snapchat, if you don't want.

[Vision Forward] 11:11:15 If you still want to use the voice assistant, either through keyboard shortcuts or another method.

[Vision Forward] 11:11:19 But don't want it listening for the wake word.

[Vision Forward] 11:11:23 You can uncheck this box or check this box here, enable voice assistant sounds check box check you're going to hear when we give it a command that there is a start listening and end listening sound.

[Vision Forward] 11:11:34 If you check you can, you can get rid of those here by doing this check box.

[Vision Forward] 11:11:37 If you choose, microphone input device combo box windows, default.

[Vision Forward] 11:11:43 If you've got a different microphone that you want to use, either set it to the default, or if you have a headset that you're always wearing, whatever it might be, you can make sure and choose which microphone you want take me to the privacy policy link if you want to go and take a

[Vision Forward] 11:11:54 look obviously at their privacy policy. You can do that. Okay.

[Vision Forward] 11:11:57 All right, let's do. Okay. We've got it turned down.

[Vision Forward] 11:12:00 We're ready to go. So let's just do a couple little quick examples.

[Vision Forward] 11:12:03 So we know that the listen word is hay, followed by its trigger word.

[Vision Forward] 11:12:09 So we'll do it in a moment, and we'll just start real quickly with the time.

[Vision Forward] 11:12:13 Hold on. We still need a joke as well. Oh, yeah, okay, let's start with that. That works. Good idea.

[Vision Forward] 11:12:18 All right, we're gonna have our good friend Jaws here.

[Vision Forward] 11:12:21 Tell us a joke, since we skipped over the joke.

[Vision Forward] 11:12:24 Hey, Sharkey, tell me a joke!

[Vision Forward] 11:12:28 What do you call a shark? Who wants to be by himself a lone shark?

[Vision Forward] 11:12:33 A lone pair. Very good. I've asked it about 5 jokes. They also heard, as they all seem to be sharp, related.

[Vision Forward] 11:12:49 At some point that's got to end. But you can get jokes from it.

[Vision Forward] 11:12:56 No good voices. A voice assistant is not a good voice, assistant.

[Vision Forward] 11:13:00 If it doesn't tell Joe, I think shocking.

[Vision Forward] 11:13:01 The quality of shark. His jokes seem to be better than most.

[Vision Forward] 11:13:03 All right. Let's give it one more. Hey, Sharkey, okay, let's try again.

[Vision Forward] 11:13:04 Hey, Sharkey, tell me a joke!

[Vision Forward] 11:13:07 I love the F. 5 key. It's just so refreshing.

[Vision Forward] 11:13:12 Oh, my God! So that was a computer job that was shock, specific.

[Vision Forward] 11:13:16 That was actually pretty good. So if you're very geeky like Korea and I, then you might enjoy your show all right.

[Vision Forward] 11:13:21 Let's do a couple other real quick ones. Hey, Sharkey!

[Vision Forward] 11:13:24 What time is it?

[Vision Forward] 11:13:27 1113 A. M. So, like most voice assistants, we can ask it the time we can ask it.

[Vision Forward] 11:13:33 The date. That's all good, but we're really more interested in sort of more specific jaws.

[Vision Forward] 11:13:38 Youes right? And really the point of this voice assistant is for those who may struggle with remembering keyboard commands.

[Vision Forward] 11:13:46 It's obviously it's not like windows, voice, access, voice control, where we can do pretty much everything.

[Vision Forward] 11:13:55 This is, there's a lot, but it's still pretty limited on what we have to do.

[Vision Forward] 11:13:59 So there's a lot of keyboard commands you still have to remember.

[Vision Forward] 11:14:02 But for some of those things that you maybe don't do very often like increasing and decreasing your speech rate, we can do it via Shkey.

[Vision Forward] 11:14:11 Hey sharkey! Speak faster!

[Vision Forward] 11:14:14 You try again, faster, serious, trying to talk on my watch at the same time.

[Vision Forward] 11:14:20 Hey Sharkey, Hey Sharkey Speech, Rate, 60.

[Vision Forward] 11:14:28 Hey, sharkey speech rate, 30.

[Vision Forward] 11:14:32 30%. So we can do either speak faster, speak slower, or we can give it a specific 30, 56 million dollars per minute, is it? Yeah, I think that's the percentage.

[Vision Forward] 11:14:47 I think it might be based offwards per minute. But it's it's in line with what you would see when you go into the jaws settings and change the speech right?

[Vision Forward] 11:14:54 So they are in line there, so you can do larger increments if you'd like to.

[Vision Forward] 11:14:58 Okay, so let's go. I have a little cheat sheet here that I want to jump back to, because I don't want to forget anything.

[Vision Forward] 11:15:08 Tell me. Oh, here's another good one, too. I have a question for you.

[Vision Forward] 11:15:13 Yes. What is the keyboard shortcut to test? To find out the battery status of your laptop?

[Vision Forward] 11:15:21 Well, I don't know the specific shocker. I would probably go to the notification chevron and open that up, and should be in there.

[Vision Forward] 11:15:29 I believe it's inert. Is it? Insert all beer in search control, be insert alt. B.

[Vision Forward] 11:15:38 No bookmarks. No, that's not insert control.

[Vision Forward] 11:15:39 B control. B, no, that's all. Oh, well, maybe it's shift.

[Vision Forward] 11:15:43 Geez! It's been so long now since I've done it A/C connect there it is. Recharge.

[Vision Forward] 11:15:47 Insert, shift, B easy, because that's real easy to do with 2 hands, anyways. How about we do, hey?

[Vision Forward] 11:15:52 Sharkey, hey, Sharkey? Okay. Third times. A truck, hey, Sharkey Clinton, like Hey, Sharkey, Battery?

[Vision Forward] 11:16:06 A/C. Connected, recharging, battery battery, level, high battery, 97% vision forward.

[Vision Forward] 11:16:13 That's cool. And again the Internet access as well, too, I will say the the lack of response.

[Vision Forward] 11:16:20 Some of the hay sharky commands something you see pretty regularly.

[Vision Forward] 11:16:24 With these speech recognition, yeah, then, with hay, Kultana.

[Vision Forward] 11:16:27 Sometimes it responds, sometimes it doesn't. It might be better with a headset.

[Vision Forward] 11:16:29 Possibly probably would be, I'd also be interested switching it to just the without. Hey?

[Vision Forward] 11:16:35 And I'd be curious just saying, sharky, if there'd be much difference. Yeah.

[Vision Forward] 11:16:38 So, battery. That's another really cool one, too.

[Vision Forward] 11:16:40 Let me jump back to my other faster. Ok, we did that start selection.

[Vision Forward] 11:16:47 Oh, here's an interesting one, so let's try this one.

[Vision Forward] 11:16:50 There is a way in jaws to when you want to select text, and we know we can just use our shift key in conjunction with any of our text navigation keys and do it that way.

[Vision Forward] 11:17:03 But there's also a way to do. Start and start and stop a selection so that you can start selection, and then move to where you want it to be finished selection, and then it'll just select all of what's in there so would you once you said start selection would you

[Vision Forward] 11:17:18 move with the arrows. Yeah, exactly. So, for example, let's just type something here.

[Vision Forward] 11:17:22 Hello! This is.

[Vision Forward] 11:17:28 Lds selections. What works? So let's go back to the beginning.

[Vision Forward] 11:17:34 Here. Black Alot. Oh, yeah, Shin forget what I typed for a minute. So I'm on the h here of Hello!

[Vision Forward] 11:17:41 So hey, sharkey start selection.

[Vision Forward] 11:17:45 Save document before marking place. Oh, that's interesting. Just save it first. Oh, yeah, I guess so, save as banter. All right. That's right.

[Vision Forward] 11:17:54 Let's try it again. I didn't know that.

[Vision Forward] 11:17:56 Never tried that before. Hey, Sharkey? Start selection.

[Vision Forward] 11:18:01 Marking place, all right. So now I'm just going to use my end key and just move to the end of the line real quick blank period. There we go.

[Vision Forward] 11:18:08 Now I'm at the end blank. Hey, Sharkey!

[Vision Forward] 11:18:12 Hey, Sharkey, finished Selection.

[Vision Forward] 11:18:18 Selecting between. Right now, how do I know, though, for sure, that it works?

[Vision Forward] 11:18:26 Very good question. Hey? Sharkey? Reed selection.

[Vision Forward] 11:18:29 Hello! This is a test to see how selection works.

[Vision Forward] 11:18:33 There you go so real quick way to kind of select a big group of texts and then also double check that what you selected actually happen. Do you think that's any easier than using the keyboard to do those things?

[Vision Forward] 11:18:47 Yes, if you can't remember how to do it, you know, I mean some of these really.

[Vision Forward] 11:18:54 What it comes down to is, if you use a feature, a lot, you're obviously going to know the keyboard command yeah, right? And you'll do it.

[Vision Forward] 11:19:02 Now the battery, one to me as a given that it's just easier to do using Sharky, because both going down to the notification system tray or doing the insert shift.

[Vision Forward] 11:19:14 B can just be a little more cumbersome, so I think it comes down to how often you use a feature.

[Vision Forward] 11:19:20 And are you? Are you more likely to remember? Start selection and finish selection versus whatever the keyboard.

[Vision Forward] 11:19:25 I feel like selecting text is one of those fundamental things that you should be able to do.

[Vision Forward] 11:19:30 And you're probably doing regularly, you are. But how many people actually use that method versus selecting the whole line or selecting word by word all the way through?

[Vision Forward] 11:19:40 You know what I'm saying. Yeah, I think this method is almost a little more advanced method in selection.

[Vision Forward] 11:19:46 I never use it to be honest, only it's one of those where I just forget about it.

[Vision Forward] 11:19:50 You sort of get. As you mentioned earlier, you get into those kind of ruts, and this is for me.

[Vision Forward] 11:19:56 This is one of them where it is a lot easier to do.

[Vision Forward] 11:19:58 But I just always forget it's there I find, using voice assistance generally a little bit weird.

[Vision Forward] 11:20:03 I do, too. And there is this. It's they're still a little delay that annoys me.

[Vision Forward] 11:20:08 But it's like better. It's the delay was worse back in the day, and I do want to mention as well that this v assistant does require Internet connection, because it is using Microsoft Cloud in order to process all these commands and stuff.

[Vision Forward] 11:20:25 So if you don't have access to the Internet, your sharky buddy isn't going to work for you.

[Vision Forward] 11:20:30 Okay, let's we did those thanks. Let's take a look here.

[Vision Forward] 11:20:34 Now at. Let's go to a web page, and that'll feed us sort of into our next one, too.

[Vision Forward] 11:20:42 Go to vision forward.org, enter home, page visions. I hear this is a very good website, Corey, one of the best around windows of it. Home. All right.

[Vision Forward] 11:20:50 So do you. Do you train individuals to use a list links, list and headings list?

[Vision Forward] 11:20:59 I do. I show them how to do it, but also I don't necessarily know how useful they are to a lot of people so yeah, I mean, really, the biggest benefit to them is the first letter navigation but it's again, it's one of those where when I was trained.

[Vision Forward] 11:21:17 And got in the habit of using. I just never did them, so I always forget to do them, and then I know the keyboard commands, but I always forget with Instr. F-six, and then F.

[Vision Forward] 11:21:26 7 I always get them mixed up. Use them often. I mean, the other thing is if you're going to use first letter navigation that implies that you know the name of the thing that you're looking at.

[Vision Forward] 11:21:36 Also, then why not just use virtual find? You could accept?

[Vision Forward] 11:21:38 Well, I guess from a yeah, I guess from a keyboard shortcut.

[Vision Forward] 11:21:41 It depends on keyboard how many presses you know. Virtual fine is quick as well.

[Vision Forward] 11:21:46 You're still going to type in one thing. Yeah. So it becomes, we should do a whole show on which, yeah?

[Vision Forward] 11:21:53 So Sharkey will let us do, a voice command. We can say, Hey, Sharkey!

[Vision Forward] 11:21:57 Hey, Sharkey, hey! Sharkey list Links!

[Vision Forward] 11:22:04 Links, list dialog links list. There we go, so it brings it up as if we did the keyboard command I'll tap my skis key and we can do the same.

[Vision Forward] 11:22:14 Hey! Sharkey! Hey! Sharkey list headings!

[Vision Forward] 11:22:20 Heading, list we can also get our for you. That's quite useful, because if you forget the insert of 6, insert and sell on which one is which.

[Vision Forward] 11:22:27 Yeah, I'm using just you shocking stuff exactly, I believe, instead of 7 is lists.

[Vision Forward] 11:22:32 It's already links. I think you might be I think I'm right. Let's find.

[Vision Forward] 11:22:36 But now I gotta find out links that nailed it all right.

[Vision Forward] 11:22:41 So that's one thing you can do on the Internet with the with sharks like, let's see what else I did that blank list comments.

[Vision Forward] 11:22:50 So that's honestly, I mean, you can list tables.

[Vision Forward] 11:22:54 You can list, form fields and things like that, but you can't navigate by heading, but you don't.

[Vision Forward] 11:23:01 I mean, honestly, you want to hit H. You don't want to say hey, Sharkey?

[Vision Forward] 11:23:04 Next, heading. I don't think it works. Please go toward or outlook to use this.

[Vision Forward] 11:23:11 Okay, yeah, it does work in in word and outlook.

[Vision Forward] 11:23:17 You can navigate by heading. So if you open the links list or the headings list with Sharkey, you have to use the keyboard and that arrow down or hit the first letter that you want, hey?

[Vision Forward] 11:23:25 We can do a virtual find with show. You cannot really.

[Vision Forward] 11:23:28 I'm surprised, at least not in what I read. You couldn't.

[Vision Forward] 11:23:32 I'm not saying, yeah. So it's pretty. It's a bit limiting here on the Internet again.

[Vision Forward] 11:23:35 It's really any of these lists, any of these lists from form fields, headings, links, those cable lists, those all have shortcut keys, and any of those you can bring up.

[Vision Forward] 11:23:48 If you want. Hey, Sharkey List Tables?

[Vision Forward] 11:23:54 No tables. No, we should mention as well that you found a list of these shortcuts on the Freedom scientific structure. Yeah. And I'll show you really quickly.

[Vision Forward] 11:24:03 That's a great question. I should have mentioned it. But let me do it right now.

[Vision Forward] 11:24:06 And now actually, yeah, we'll show that real quick here.

[Vision Forward] 11:24:09 So if I go back into my jaws, menu here and we go back to utilities again.

[Vision Forward] 11:24:15 Utilities, Joy's 10, and down to voice, voice, assist!

[Vision Forward] 11:24:18 There we go expand, and we went to settings. Last time settings to go. One more getting started.

[Vision Forward] 11:24:25 That's gonna take us right into the training material. And in there you're gonna navigate by headaching, and you'll find a heading it breaks it down by general reading word, Internet outlook.

[Vision Forward] 11:24:38 And you can take a look at all of those different. That's for one thing, I think with a tool like this, like a lot of the a lot of the kind of usage is just going to be figuring out where it's more efficient to use sharkey, so you're not necessarily going to use

[Vision Forward] 11:24:53 every single sharky command. It's going to be a few that help you with whatever you do on a daily basis.

[Vision Forward] 11:24:58 We'll give one more quick example here in the word page, vision.

[Vision Forward] 11:25:00 Hello, Doc! Doc's word. Okay, so let's do this document here.

[Vision Forward] 11:25:05 And what I want to do here real, quick period work selection works.

[Vision Forward] 11:25:08 Oh, okay, sk, Ok, so now, I just made a misspelling here. You know, the weird thing.

[Vision Forward] 11:25:15 Word hasn't flagged it as a test to see how selection works is.

[Vision Forward] 11:25:23 I guess that's a word and there's a capital S excess. It doesn't work.

[Vision Forward] 11:25:30 Capital X maybe they're just a way. Okay, okay, let's do pause Z, at the end.

[Vision Forward] 11:25:36 That's gonna be a right blank. So it's still no flag.

[Vision Forward] 11:25:41 It just try it, though. I don't think it's going to work.

[Vision Forward] 11:25:43 But let's try it here. So one of the features we can do is spelling error.

[Vision Forward] 11:25:51 There we go. We actually can do one of 2 things. First, we can't spelling errors, and it'll put all theirs in a list for us, or we can say next, spelling error.

[Vision Forward] 11:26:01 So if I say, Hey, Sharkey! Next spelling year.

[Vision Forward] 11:26:06 The option to check spelling as you type is disabled.

[Vision Forward] 11:26:09 Oh, well, that's weird. I didn't I thought that would do that, but that must be.

[Vision Forward] 11:26:14 Why, it's not flagging, maybe, anyways, what it will do if you have that feature, turned on which it is by default, it'll just take you to the next misspelled word.

[Vision Forward] 11:26:25 Tap your applications, key down, arrow through your spelling options.

[Vision Forward] 11:26:29 Hit. Enter on the word you want, and now you've done your spelling.

[Vision Forward] 11:26:33 So some people don't like the new revamped spelling and grammar checker in office.

[Vision Forward] 11:26:44 So this might be one way of doing it. You can also say next, grammar mistake in in office. So this might be one way of doing it. You can also say next grammar mistake as well. So you can do just more than just spelling can do grammar I think that's a handy feature.

[Vision Forward] 11:26:55 The other feature I like, too, is comments. I work with some college-aged students where they all get assignments back with comments. Yeah.

[Vision Forward] 11:27:04 And jaws does a good job on it, but there is a command for next comment.

[Vision Forward] 11:27:09 Previous comment. So you can just move right through the document, and there's keyboard commands as well yeah, which obviously, all of these things have keyboard commands.

[Vision Forward] 11:27:16 All all the voice assistant is doing. Is just tying the words, the phrase you're saying to the keyboard command, if I wonder if I wonder if there is a future where all of this is just done by voice or just thinking can I think the battery?

[Vision Forward] 11:27:31 And then it does it. How long it produces Jonathan, how to comment? Yeah, we do it.

[Vision Forward] 11:27:40 Which, by the way, if people watch our apple vision pro video, which will be released today or tomorrow.

[Vision Forward] 11:27:45 But I think today, by Jonathan, hopefully, today, hopefully, today, at 60'clock but possibly tomorrow at 60'clock. If you watch the apple vision pro video, then you will find out about the eye tracking inside the vision project and what the alternatives for people like me who cannot use my eyes to look

[Vision Forward] 11:27:58 at stuff, yeah, it's 40 min long. By the way, so make sure you but we look at the new headset from an accessibility standpoint. So it's pretty cool.

[Vision Forward] 11:28:08 Make sure you get your popcorn and coffee or alcoholic beverage.

[Vision Forward] 11:28:12 If that is your preference. Alright. So that is Sharkey.

[Vision Forward] 11:28:15 That's the voice assistant. There's a more when you look at the voice commands.

[Vision Forward] 11:28:19 You're gonna see it a lot does a lot more.

[Vision Forward] 11:28:21 I just wanted to highlight some of the most used ones are the ones I think would be most commonly used.

[Vision Forward] 11:28:26 But I want to move on. Yes, for those with Zoomtox.

[Vision Forward] 11:28:30 You do have Zoomie similar things. So Corey mentioned it before.

[Vision Forward] 11:28:32 But yeah, yeah, you can say, Zoomie, or Hey, Zoomie?

[Vision Forward] 11:28:35 Increased, magnific. Decrease me, you know those kind of things which I think I mean again, there are keyboard shortcuts for those those probably get used more often.

[Vision Forward] 11:28:42 But then again, yeah, so alright. Are you ready to move on?

[Vision Forward] 11:28:46 Oh, just one more thing sorry. I just thought, for those who are using screen magnification.

[Vision Forward] 11:28:50 They might not know the keyboard as well as somebody using a screen.

[Vision Forward] 11:28:54 Reader, show. So maybe for those people the the voice commands are actually more relevant.

[Vision Forward] 11:29:00 That might be true. Yeah, I'm on board with you, all right. Next thing, we're going to take a look at is our buddy yeah, flexible web, I find the vision buddy.

[Vision Forward] 11:29:12 You don't know anything about flexible web. I think it's where you send your computer to Yoga camp.

[Vision Forward] 11:29:18 Is that right? Anyone in that, either in the Zoom chat or you Tube, throw it in there.

[Vision Forward] 11:29:25 If you're familiar with flexible web, and if you land it, give me an example of how you use it.

[Vision Forward] 11:29:30 Please? Is it where you can get rid of certain elements sort of yes, there's 2 main things.

[Vision Forward] 11:29:37 Are are you ready? We're going to use vision forwards.

[Vision Forward] 11:29:42 Website here, as an example, we use regions on our website.

[Vision Forward] 11:29:48 We've got 3. We got 3 main regions that we kind of work with here.

[Vision Forward] 11:29:52 First region is, takes us to the banner at the top of our website, and I think our banner has the shopping cart.

[Vision Forward] 11:30:00 And let's take a look here. So I'm going to do an R to move by region list of 3 items.

[Vision Forward] 11:30:04 So we have open search, form, search button. We can open up our search link card contents. Our C.

[Vision Forward] 11:30:09 0, Lincoln Centre, font, size and change in.

[Vision Forward] 11:30:12 So that's what's in the banner. There.

[Vision Forward] 11:30:14 So let's say that I never want to deal with that don't ever need it.

[Vision Forward] 11:30:20 Don't ever, want to work with that banner. It's just in the way I want to hide it so that jaws doesn't see it.

[Vision Forward] 11:30:28 So we're gonna use flexible web to do that.

[Vision Forward] 11:30:31 So we're gonna use flexible web to do that.

[Vision Forward] 11:30:31 So first, we're going to use our key to move back to that so first, we're going to use our key to move back to that region list of 3 items.

[Vision Forward] 11:30:35 And now we're going to do the Layer command.

[Vision Forward] 11:30:39 Insert space and

[Vision Forward] 11:31:02 Moment, and so I'm going to go over to Ok.

[Vision Forward] 11:31:07 Enable flexible web checkbox chat. We want to make sure that that's checked, and it is by default, and we'll do our next enter.

[Vision Forward] 11:31:12 How would you like to customize the page, hide an element radio button checked one of 2.

[Vision Forward] 11:31:18 So now it's asking me how I want to change it. Here.

[Vision Forward] 11:31:21 So we have start hiding element. High didn't know what saying hide, but it's almost saying, Hey, I can't tell.

[Vision Forward] 11:31:26 It's pronouncing it where hide an element, or start reading at an element, start reading.

[Vision Forward] 11:31:32 Now we're going to do that one next so let's just do hide first.

[Vision Forward] 11:31:36 Hide an element. Good! We'll tab over back button next button all right.

[Vision Forward] 11:31:40 Enter which of the following elements would you like to customize list, box list one of 4.

[Vision Forward] 11:31:45 Now remember when we moved to that banner. It was also a lists. Right? Yeah.

[Vision Forward] 11:31:52 So there is a number of 4. Now remember, when we moved to that banner, it was also a list. Right? Yeah. So there is a number of different elements.

[Vision Forward] 11:31:56 It's seeing there. So now it's asking us by which element or which element do we want to hide? Now?

[Vision Forward] 11:32:00 I don't want to do the list I don't want that which is a little bit more.

[Vision Forward] 11:32:06 HTML stuff, but go down Banner region. That's what I want. I want to get rid of that whole region as a whole. So I'm going to go over and choose next next button.

[Vision Forward] 11:32:17 Enter select a customization list, box, hide, banner, region, one, and I want to hide it.

[Vision Forward] 11:32:20 That's what that's the first options. I'll keep that back.

[Vision Forward] 11:32:23 Button finished final finish. All right. It's now been created. Hey?

[Vision Forward] 11:32:27 If I go back up to the top of the page, and I do are Maine region. It got right.

[Vision Forward] 11:32:33 It's skipped right over, actually that skip over 200 regions main region. There we go.

[Vision Forward] 11:32:39 It skipped over that banner region, and it's no longer there. Cly, I have questions.

[Vision Forward] 11:32:43 Yes, I have many questions, but before I ask my questions, Sean has a question what were the keystrokes we used to get to the list of sharky commandants? Very good.

[Vision Forward] 11:32:53 What you can do is go into your jaws, menu, so that's a little tougher, because it depends.

[Vision Forward] 11:32:59 If you run jaws from your system, tray or not, do you run jaws from your system?

[Vision Forward] 11:33:04 Tray. Then you're just going to either. Do an insert J, or go to the desktop and hit.

[Vision Forward] 11:33:09 Enter on jaws that brings up the jaws.

[Vision Forward] 11:33:11 Context, menu go to utilities, then the voice assistant and then down arrow to get started if you don't run jaws in your system train, it's just in your task.

[Vision Forward] 11:33:20 Bar alt tab till you get to the jaws window.

[Vision Forward] 11:33:24 Go ahead and do your alt, you to bring up the utilities menu down narrow to voice, assistant, expand it down, arrow to get started, Sean.

[Vision Forward] 11:33:34 Oh, actually, it was a show! Nice sorry. I just saw the full name.

[Vision Forward] 11:33:37 Let's us know if that gave you what you needed, and so for my question, please question number one.

[Vision Forward] 11:33:44 Yes, now that we have hidden that region. Yes, does jaws remember, if we close the browser and go back, will that region still be no right now?

[Vision Forward] 11:33:53 It's temporary. Ok? So one thing that I'll notice is if I alt f 4 out of the browser.

[Vision Forward] 11:33:58 Yeah, it will prompt me to ask me if I want to save it, or if I do my insert actors insert space.

[Vision Forward] 11:34:06 Space, X. Flexible web. Dialog. What would you like to do?

[Vision Forward] 11:34:09 Create a new customer. Z. Now I can do we try high banner region one from the top with id equals masked head or undue high banner region, one from the top, with save temporary customizations as a rule, radio button Shack.

[Vision Forward] 11:34:22 I can now save it as a permanent rule. If I do that now, this is pretty cool.

[Vision Forward] 11:34:26 I want to show you this enable flexible web.

[Vision Forward] 11:34:29 Next button. Enter the Roomame edit type in 10.

[Vision Forward] 11:34:33 We'll just call us R. It doesn't really matter we're just going to name it.

[Vision Forward] 11:34:37 List view. How would you like that? List? View, hide, banner, reach how would you like this rule to apply combo box to the current side?

[Vision Forward] 11:34:45 So this is to the current site. So that would be this.

[Vision Forward] 11:34:51 This this region, I believe, As on every page that would apply to every page, so that would apply it to every.

[Vision Forward] 11:34:58 So when it says current site, it really means current domain. So yes, any.

[Vision Forward] 11:34:59 Any page on this site or if I down arrow to the current page just to the current page, I mocked.

[Vision Forward] 11:35:05 So we'll look at the back button. Finish my favorite now.

[Vision Forward] 11:35:11 It's permanently there. So now, if I leave Chrome and come back in, it'll be there.

[Vision Forward] 11:35:15 But let me just show you this for a second kind of cool windows. M.

[Vision Forward] 11:35:18 Desk. If we go to Microsoft, Edg, let's go to the opening new window address.

[Vision Forward] 11:35:24 Insert. And let's go to vision. Borg entered our web page homepage homepage, and I do.

[Vision Forward] 11:35:33 Our main region. Amazing? Yes, so cool. It's actually I was shocked when I so it works.

[Vision Forward] 11:35:39 It's not so. It's not saved to the browser itself.

[Vision Forward] 11:35:44 It's saved to jaw so that it goes across any browser that you're using.

[Vision Forward] 11:35:48 It's pretty clever. So that is desktop. Incredible!

[Vision Forward] 11:35:51 HP, I didn't actually expect that. No, my only concern with this is, it is pretty advanced, because not necessarily in terms of the key commands, but as you arerowing through the lists, making choices, some of that stuff I could see does get a little bit and I think that's where you

[Vision Forward] 11:36:09 know with a trainer you can kind of get from a little bit familiar, more familiar with which ones you should choose.

[Vision Forward] 11:36:14 You know some other great examples would be sometimes when you go to a website where you read an article, you'll use your H key, and you will hear the heading of the article, which is great.

[Vision Forward] 11:36:26 But then, when you down arrow, you hear share on Facebook, hide all that.

[Vision Forward] 11:36:31 So now, next time you go there to any article, usually they all carry the same kind of layout when you do your Hq.

[Vision Forward] 11:36:37 And down Arrow, you'll all that will be hin, and you'll get right to your article.

[Vision Forward] 11:36:41 That my only other concern is with placemakers, which is another cool jaws.

[Vision Forward] 11:36:47 Feature I have had the experience more than once where the place markers disappear, and they are not temporary place markers.

[Vision Forward] 11:36:54 They have been saved, but they disappear or, for example, if the web site changes as well that not can also call it. Can you just got to make sure, like when you create place markers.

[Vision Forward] 11:37:05 One of the options is in. There is, you know, anchor to text.

[Vision Forward] 11:37:10 Yes, and so you always want to use that. But yes, it's not a perfect size.

[Vision Forward] 11:37:14 Well, I kind of wonder whether there might be similar issues with this potentially yeah, I don't know.

[Vision Forward] 11:37:21 So in this case we hit an entire region. But you can hide just a single element.

[Vision Forward] 11:37:25 So just a single link, a single button, whatever you want to do. And then, at any point.

[Vision Forward] 11:37:28 Now I saved that, but if I do insert space X.

[Vision Forward] 11:37:34 And I find view or change where roles apply radio button check, create a new view, create a new customer's April. Okay?

[Vision Forward] 11:37:42 So what's enable flexible finish space if you were okay. So what's the enable flexible space view or change with?

[Vision Forward] 11:37:51 And now it's crime, star vision, 0, global opened. What? One currency vision forward.org closed open. Let's open, Jan.

[Vision Forward] 11:37:58 Current page, vision forward.org slash! Anyways, I don't want to go through all this, so you can go in and delete that customization at any point as well.

[Vision Forward] 11:38:05 So if you set one, and then you're like, Oh, never mind, no, I need it back. You can do it now.

[Vision Forward] 11:38:09 Let me do the other side of flexible web. So let's give an example here, where potentially, when you come, I'm trying to think of a good well, I'll just use ours here.

[Vision Forward] 11:38:22 Let's use an example here when you come to our web page.

[Vision Forward] 11:38:28 If you can't see some living with a vision I'm gonna just move by headings shot for adaptive vision products visited heading level 3 right now, let's pretend, for example, you go to a website and there's a heading that says trending stories.

[Vision Forward] 11:38:40 Or or or today's news that heading is always there right?

[Vision Forward] 11:38:44 But let's say, when you load that page with jaws, you always just want to start right from that headache right from that link, or whatever it might be.

[Vision Forward] 11:38:54 So what you do is first move to it like I just did.

[Vision Forward] 11:38:56 Here heading level 3 link shop. So I'm on the shop for adaptive tools.

[Vision Forward] 11:39:00 If I do insert space. Space X. Flexible web dialogue, what would you like to do?

[Vision Forward] 11:39:06 Creative. And we want to create a new one. Enter, how would you like to customize the page hide an element this time?

[Vision Forward] 11:39:12 I don't want to hide. Instead, I'll down Arrow start reading it, and we'll do start reading back.

[Vision Forward] 11:39:18 Butt next button enter which of the following elements would you like to customize list box heading level?

[Vision Forward] 11:39:24

1. Shop for adaptive and that's what we want back butt next.

[Vision Forward] 11:39:28 Button, enter, select a customization list box, start a heading level 3, one from the top.

[Vision Forward] 11:39:32 With text, and we'll leave this at its default.

[Vision Forward] 11:39:35 Here, back, button finished Button. Now, if I refresh this page F.

[Vision Forward] 11:39:41 5, 3 regions. That reminds me of the jokes in 20.

[Vision Forward] 11:39:46 -five. There's 4 smart lunch highlights visited heading level, 3 link shop and it immediately took us right to that headache.

[Vision Forward] 11:39:54 So this is really powerful. If you really think from not only a personal, if they're sites, you go to all the time where you always think from not only a personal.

[Vision Forward] 11:40:06 If there are sites you go to all the time where you always have sites, you go to all the time where you always sites all the time we use Emr system electronic medical records all the time, and if I could set it up so that flexible web where I can say no every time you load this page I want you

[Vision Forward] 11:40:18 to go to this exact link or this heading, how much it can really save time, you know, getting places quicker.

[Vision Forward] 11:40:27 This is a really awesome feature. Yeah, yeah, this to me, I think flexible web.

[Vision Forward] 11:40:32 All of the ones we are going to look at today. To me this is the one that has the the biggest impact.

[Vision Forward] 11:40:37 Does have a little bit more learning curve. Kind of behind it, and might be one of these where?

[Vision Forward] 11:40:45 Where? Where, as a trainer, maybe, you help an individual set a month but once you start to get the groove and start to utilize them, you really can get rid of so much of that cruff and junk in a website, that you just don't need I think some of the only confusing part

[Vision Forward] 11:40:57 is really some of those. HTML options that you have, because when you're listening to those, I just feel like if you don't understand.

[Vision Forward] 11:41:05 HTML, then that's going to be the good news is you don't need a dose of them.

[Vision Forward] 11:41:09 You don't know but you're right. Just learning to disregard exactly.

[Vision Forward] 11:41:12 Yeah, wonderful. I can imagine implementing for some of this stuff like you could be a parent.

[Vision Forward] 11:41:19 And your kid wants to access a website. But there's certain things on that website.

[Vision Forward] 11:41:22 You don't want them to have access to. Yeah. So then you could obviously hide those elements so they don't have access to that.

[Vision Forward] 11:41:28 And also for users who maybe aren't so proficient with their screen reader, as a trainer you could simplify websites that they want to use to make it easier than to navigate.

[Vision Forward] 11:41:39 And then you could then start to unhigh as I get more and more, and you introduce more and more.

[Vision Forward] 11:41:44 So you're still using the same page versus going to new pages that are more complex.

[Vision Forward] 11:41:48 You still use the same page right now you're showing the relationship of okay.

[Vision Forward] 11:41:53 Now, I'm unhiding this and this is how you interact.

[Vision Forward] 11:41:55 So yeah. Very quick question. So if we hide the region which we did at the start here I assume that that region won't appear no matter how we're navigating.

[Vision Forward] 11:42:03 So if we're navigating by, we don't want using the.

[Vision Forward] 11:42:07 I don't believe so. Let's just try from the top real quick by down arrow.

[Vision Forward] 11:42:10 Same page, length, main region. Directly. I just judge right to try and spare over that. Yeah, be excellent.

[Vision Forward] 11:42:15 You got it. That's really cool. Yeah. Good job, freedom, scientific.

[Vision Forward] 11:42:19 Ready to go all right. So we've got really one last one here to take a look at that's smart glance, smart glances.

[Vision Forward] 11:42:29 This was a more recent addition. You might notice it when you've loaded up a new page in web pages, that when it reads the kind of summary.

[Vision Forward] 11:42:40 So let's see, actually, does it read the summary here?

[Vision Forward] 11:42:41 Do we have smart glance? That's fine. Let's find a home page.

[Vision Forward] 11:42:47 Vision Forwardword, 3 regions, 14 headings in 21 links for smart Lens.

[Vision Forward] 11:42:55 So basically, what smart glances are is that jaws looks at a web page, and it looks at the font attributes of the page.

[Vision Forward] 11:43:03 It looks at different font emphases or styles, or colors, and then it sees how often it's used, and the more unique, so the less often it's used, the higher ranking it gets and the reason for this is what they're assuming is that the developer of a website

[Vision Forward] 11:43:24 has taken a piece of text and used maybe a background color or a bold font, to draw your eye to that piece of content on the web page.

[Vision Forward] 11:43:36 Yet it's not a heading for you to just use your Ht.

[Vision Forward] 11:43:40 To get to, and so what they've done then is that that it, as it sees these, and you know, realizes, okay, this is only used a couple times.

[Vision Forward] 11:43:51 Then it creates kind of what they call consider a smart glance for you to quickly glance or move around that page to see something when you and I talked about this Corey, I suggested.

[Vision Forward] 11:44:03 Maybe this is this is at its best for websites that haven't been designed very well, because you would assume if the eye is being visually directed towards something on the page, it should really be a heading, because it's in a piece of information.

[Vision Forward] 11:44:20 I agree. So I want to use it on ours here, because I don't know what it's considering and I want you to sort of tell me the key that we use is Y, the letter Y is what moves us through smart glances.

[Vision Forward] 11:44:34 So if I do, y meet Jayie and learn more about her journey with vision loss.

[Vision Forward] 11:44:38 That was not a heading. No, but is it bold or different colour?

[Vision Forward] 11:44:44 It's definitely bold, and I'm not sure whether it's a different font.

[Vision Forward] 11:44:48 But it's definitely bold. Why, again, first name started.

[Vision Forward] 11:44:51 It required. So now it's moved to this form here, and so I don't know if the first name is maybe because of the star.

[Vision Forward] 11:44:57 I'm not sure why it considers this to be.

[Vision Forward] 11:45:00 I can't really tell last name starting. Obviously, the other one is a stop email star.

[Vision Forward] 11:45:08 And it requires that's 3. So there's one more no tapes. If I did, if I hit the right key, that would be helpful.

[Vision Forward] 11:45:12 First name start last name, email, stop wrapping to top.

[Vision Forward] 11:45:15 That was all of them. That's right. So that's what's smart glances are, at least on our webpage.

[Vision Forward] 11:45:23 Let me get show you a freedom. Scientific. The example they give.

[Vision Forward] 11:45:27 We go to their website.

[Vision Forward] 11:45:30 Calm, enter blank.

[Vision Forward] 11:45:33 Downloads. Sure. Oh, I didn't go to their home.

[Vision Forward] 11:45:36 Yeah, visited. Link Graphic. Enter home, page. Here we go.

[Vision Forward] 11:45:40 So there's let's see what they have here.

[Vision Forward] 11:45:42 First of all, let's find out if they have any, so I'll just do a quick refresh freedom, scientific high-quality, video magnifiers, braille displays screen magnification software.

[Vision Forward] 11:45:53 And number one screen. Reader, choice, freedom, scientific high quality, video.

[Vision Forward] 11:45:58 Oh, that's the longest title at any website has ever had. They should know about it.

[Vision Forward] 11:46:03 Oh, yeah, they should. Ok, there are glances. We're going to cut the middle man.

[Vision Forward] 11:46:08 Just tell you that there are glances. We're going to cut the middle man. Just tell you that there are. So I'm going to hit y and find out what so there they have one called.

[Vision Forward] 11:46:12 Yeah, that's called today. And if then, if I down Arrow Link 1, 804, I get their phone number.

[Vision Forward] 11:46:21 Yeah, so that cold today is visually is a different color.

[Vision Forward] 11:46:22 But it's not a heading no, no, not a heading. Yeah, exactly. Yeah.

[Vision Forward] 11:46:25 So that's basically smart glances where jaws will just look at the webpage.

[Vision Forward] 11:46:31 Determine if text is emphasized in some way, and if it is, then it brings it in as a smart glance.

[Vision Forward] 11:46:39 So that you can kind of skim through and just get an idea of potentially some important pieces of the website.

[Vision Forward] 11:46:47 That again. Maybe. Aren't navigated by heading or somewhere else to get some other methods.

[Vision Forward] 11:46:55 I do wonder how useful that is, you know, whenever I say a thing is not useful, and it's never used. So many people.

[Vision Forward] 11:47:01 Yeah, so I would love other people's opinions. How are you using smart glances?

[Vision Forward] 11:47:07 I don't see it as super and intuitive.

[Vision Forward] 11:47:13 Not that it's not intuitive. I don't see it super useful.

[Vision Forward] 11:47:14 Yeah, what are you gonna find? That's not consistency.

[Vision Forward] 11:47:17 There isn't the only upside to it is, is it?

[Vision Forward] 11:47:21 Is a quick way to to, you know a sighted person would bring up this freedom.

[Vision Forward] 11:47:26 Scientific webpage, and your eyes would be drawn to that. Call me right.

[Vision Forward] 11:47:29 Yes, because it's there. So now I can do the same thing, and I can use a keyboard command to see what the developers wanted.

[Vision Forward] 11:47:39 People's eyes drawn to. So it does give me more information.

[Vision Forward] 11:47:44 It gives me more ways to navigate, to maybe potentially find important information.

[Vision Forward] 11:47:49 And obviously smart glances is new. So there's been many other ways that we could have found this stuff as well in the past.

[Vision Forward] 11:47:55 I would have come here done a virtual fine type. Call, enter, call today, and got right there, too.

[Vision Forward] 11:48:03 So again it, but it was one key press versus 5 key Presses.

[Vision Forward] 11:48:08 So yeah, that's fair. I think, yeah, it's one of those things it's easy enough to do.

[Vision Forward] 11:48:13 So if you're on a website, you can just press your Mickey a few times. See what's there.

[Vision Forward] 11:48:17 See if there's anything interesting. I think it's underutilized, and probably a lot of trainers potentially don't do this is, I think, when a when a new website is loaded up, I think taking that moment to use the Y key and the R key to move by regions can give you

[Vision Forward] 11:48:36 a really quick idea of what how this page is laid out and what's potentially important, and what's not. Yeah.

[Vision Forward] 11:48:44 You know, the Y is obviously going to give you these smart glances.

[Vision Forward] 11:48:46 The R is going to move through the regions quickly, and you're going to find main navigation main, construct footer, and it just gives you an idea of what sort of on this page are not not so much what's on the page.

[Vision Forward] 11:48:57 But how it's laid out and grouped together. You can start to build that visual map, and it's quick, and then from there use your Ht.

[Vision Forward] 11:49:06 Or however else you choose to kind of navigate. So these features are available in jaws 2023.

[Vision Forward] 11:49:15 Yeah, I don't remember. Let's do it right now.

[Vision Forward] 11:49:18 So flexible. Web has been out forever you're stuck in a dialogue box.

[Vision Forward] 11:49:24 At the same time no button enter freedoms control. Let's do Josh Smart, the one that's his turn the back come out.

[Vision Forward] 11:49:35 The linked search was, what's new in videos? What's new in jaws?

[Vision Forward] 11:49:38 2,023, okay, 3, so 2023, for smart glances.

[Vision Forward] 11:49:43 Voice assistant who's 2021 flexible web, I think, was even before that.

[Vision Forward] 11:49:47 It's been around for a bit. So yeah, so most of these are going to be if you're up to date, then you're obviously good to go.

[Vision Forward] 11:49:56 But even if you've got an older one, you might be Ok.

[Vision Forward] 11:49:58 Depending on how old your version is, and for those of you who are not up to date, don't forget that freedom scientific do have a subscription plan, and for those of you who are not up to date. Don't forget that freedom scientific do have a subscription. Plan.

[Vision Forward] 11:50:09 Now where you can pay $90, convention sales and stuff.

[Vision Forward] 11:50:13 Yes, I saw an old post on blind bgains from 2015, where they were selling jaws, licenses for $75, and magic licenses for $50.

[Vision Forward] 11:50:24 Can you believe that? I think, when that was, I think, right when they started doing the subscription type?

[Vision Forward] 11:50:28 It was a yeah. That must have been the deal of the century.

[Vision Forward] 11:50:31 Anybody there was a conventions, anybody who was there. Let us know what you've got.

[Vision Forward] 11:50:38 Apparently they had offers of Braille displays as well, but I doubt they were $50 that's not going to be cool, though.

[Vision Forward] 11:50:44 So yes, so that was an overview of some of what I think are some can be useful jaws.

[Vision Forward] 11:50:52 Features, yet are probably overlooked in most cases. So again, for on Youtube throw in the comments how you might use some of these, or, if you do, zoom, if you're connected, live, throw it in the throw it in the chat real quick.

[Vision Forward] 11:51:06 If you've got any other questions, or I'd be curious if you know, maybe, how you use them as well.

[Vision Forward] 11:51:11 Yes, me, too. And I definitely learned a lot today. Corey.

[Vision Forward] 11:51:15 Thank you. I did. That's good. That's really the purpose of this.

[Vision Forward] 11:51:18 It's just a trailing. Well, when we sat down, we're like, why should we do this?

[Vision Forward] 11:51:23 And then you're like, I don't know anything and I said, All right, let's do a live session teaching you disclaimer.

[Vision Forward] 11:51:28 That is not what they are. They could have done them so.

[Vision Forward] 11:51:32 Yes, that is the end of our session for today, and we are going to like, say, we are going to have a conversation about our future format, and I expect that we will communicate.

[Vision Forward] 11:51:42 Don't be afraid. We're not going. We're not going to disappear, not going any. We're just gonna we're gonna make it better.

[Vision Forward] 11:51:48 That's really what it is. We want to give the people what they want. They.

[Vision Forward] 11:51:52 Yeah, I want 24, 7, streaming like a news channel.

[Vision Forward] 11:51:57 So yeah, we'll probably send out the survey again as Corey said, and if you haven't responded to it, then any thoughts would be appreciated.

[Vision Forward] 11:52:03 It doesn't take too long to fill out. So we just want to get an idea of what people are looking for with these sessions.

[Vision Forward] 11:52:08 So hopefully. Today it was helpful. And in 2 weeks time I'm afraid our schedule has gone a little bit off the tracks.

[Vision Forward] 11:52:14 Here. So I'm not 100% sure what we're going to be doing.

[Vision Forward] 11:52:18 Yeah, I mean, we at some point this summer. We're coming back to my house again.

[Vision Forward] 11:52:21 We got a new basketball hoop. I'm going to show Hug where it's accessible.

[Vision Forward] 11:52:25 But I don't know. Yeah, we have kind of jumped around a little bit.

[Vision Forward] 11:52:30 So again, quick reminder, head over to our tech, connect website, tech, connect that vision, dash forward.org, create a free account.

[Vision Forward] 11:52:40 You have access to all of these sessions, archived, and you can see what's coming up.

[Vision Forward] 11:52:46 We'll be posting our next session that should go up tomorrow, so you'll see what's coming up, and you can just kind of keep updated with everything we're doing and all of our past stuff, both through 2023 and all of last year, 2022 they're all up there

[Vision Forward] 11:53:04 as well. And we do have a Youtube also, it is Youtube com, forward, vision forward, tech, connect.

[Vision Forward] 11:53:11 And that is where you will be able to see our latest video on the Apple vision pro when it releases today or tomorrow.

[Vision Forward] 11:53:18 And you can also see that on the Lms. As well.

[Vision Forward] 11:53:21 That's true. So you can see that in either of those 2 places.

[Vision Forward] 11:53:23 But if you happen to check out that video, we definitely would appreciate any likes and comments, because those always help with the algorithm and the apple vision pro for those who are not aware of it is a pretty cool piece of tech, and we speculate on whether it might be good from a low vision.

[Vision Forward] 11:53:37 Wearable perspective, so there is no clear sign from Apple as to whether they might have any features that were turn it into a low vision, wearable.

[Vision Forward] 11:53:46 But it's fun to speculate. Nonetheless, it is yes, so make sure you keep attuned to that channel for that video.

[Vision Forward] 11:53:52 Diane says I missed the jokes. Very sorry, Diana.

[Vision Forward] 11:53:55 I miss the jokes as well, but I think we still will do a joke.

[Vision Forward] 11:53:58 We're just not going to take 20 min to get into the.

[Vision Forward] 11:54:03 But the audience didn't seem to like it as much.

[Vision Forward] 11:54:08 So we are trying to tailor these to make as many people happy as possible.

[Vision Forward] 11:54:12 So then fill out the survey, and let us know that you really want our long intro with multiple jokes, and we'll see how we'll see how we get on.

[Vision Forward] 11:54:20 Once we've tallied all the results of those surveys.

[Vision Forward] 11:54:22 But for the moment goodbye. We will look forward to seeing you in 2 weeks, and I hope you have a great couple of weeks bye, for now see ya!

[Vision Forward] 11:54:35 And so.

[Vision Forward] 11:54:43 Thanks for joining us for another tech, connect, live. If you enjoyed Corey and Luke's antics, be sure to join us next time, for all things.

[Vision Forward] 11:54:52 Tech connect, go to vision 4 with org slash, tech, connect.

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