Episode Notes

Timestamps: 0:00 Intro and Jokes 08:40 Guest speaker: Who is Anat Nulman? 13:00 RealSam Pocket phone itself compared to other smartphones 15:35 Out of the box setup and use, touchscreens and gestures vs tapping 23:16 Phone calls and creating contacts with audio alone 30:20 Text Messages 37:59 Auditory Contrast and voice options 46:52 Wrap up and suggestions for a Part 2 Review of the RealSam Pocket

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11:04:17 Welcome to vision forwards, tech, connect, live, connecting you to the world of assistive technology. 11:04:24 And now here you hosts, Corey and 11:04:28 Hello, everybody! I'm welcome back to. And that's fine. 11:04:34 I always had Ted talk flavor, welcome back to tech, connect, live, a resource, and brought to you by vision, Forward Association, Association. 11:04:44 Yes, they are yeah. Vision Ford Association. And this is tech, connect, live, welcome. 11:04:47 It is Thursday, January nineteenth. 11:04:51 Well, remember 2,023. I know amazing how it's our second show. Second show. 11:04:57 What was our oh, our first show of the year was windows, magnifiers as a one v. 11:05:02 One. My son says A. One V. One of windows magnifier versus zoom text. 11:05:06 Go back and check that out. But today, is our second one. 11:05:09 Indeed! Yeah. Oh, was that our second one? And this is our third one. 11:05:13 Hmm, no, it's 2 weeks. It's only 19. 11:05:15 Well, you know everybody's having a wonderful day today. Yes, our last one was pretty popular with the windows. 11:05:20 Magnifying the Zoom text, so, yeah, as the kids say, it was a bang. 11:05:25 You were just full of all of these great, frees. If you are looking for if you're looking for a screen, magnificent program, and you're not sure which one to go for, then definitely check out. 11:05:33 That previous tech connect live? Sure. But in this video we are not talking about computers. 11:05:40 Or I guess we kind of arc as smart yes, but we're not talking about Pcs. Oh, no, we are talking about Pcs. 11:05:47 Oh, no, we are talking about accessible smartphones. Koi. 11:05:51 This is a topic which we have discussed in the past. 11:05:52 We have discussed accessibility on Android phones, on apple phone that we have. 11:05:56 Looked at different apps, check? Which? Yeah, yeah, we look at the blank shell of call on check. 11:06:02 Yeah. Louie. Louis. Software on us? Yeah. Check. Yeah. So we have a, you know, phones, these are topics that we like to cover here. 11:06:08 And that's because basically everybody these days uses a phone and needs to use a phone because there's so much things that we have to do via apps, or even just communicating with people. 11:06:19 And so on, and so forth. What is when you work with individuals on cell phones? 11:06:26 What percent of them? Yes, come in, yes, and strictly use, or only really want to use their voice. 11:06:35 I would say a fairly high percentage. Okay, I need a number. 11:06:40 Well, okay, I'm gonna go at least 70, probably 81%. 11:06:47 Yes, I've done the math. I need to see the take on this. 11:06:50 But yes, it is a high percentage. Yeah. A lot of people want to be able to do, you know, stuff on that phone with a voice particularly, I don't want to pigeonhole people but I would say, the more elderly population in particular might be keen on that just because they want to be as simple 11:07:05 As possible, and the voice potentially offers simplicity. 11:07:08 Now, I will say, if you want to use a computer with just your voice, maybe not so simple. 11:07:12 It's a little different. Yeah. Using a smartphone definitely, you know, it can be easier. 11:07:17 And hopefully, they are paying attention today. Yes, hopefully, they are. Yes. 11:07:21 And yeah, so you can do stuff on a regular smartphone with your voice. 11:07:25 But the smartphone we're looking at today is going to be a little bit different and allow you to do a little bit more. 11:07:29 So we're looking forward to jumping into that. But before we start, of course we do like to tell jokes, don't we call it? We do like to tell jokes, I mean, I know you think we were telling a joke this whole time. 11:07:40 But yes, your face was a joke. Oh, now we're in that I don't know if I like 2,023. 11:07:49 I don't know if I like your New Year's resolution, but yes, so we like to tell jokes. 11:07:53 We also like our audience to tell jokes as well. So if you are in the audience, then please feel free to communicate with us via the chat or the Q. 11:08:02 And a either way is completely fine, and also, if you have any questions about to the things that we are looking at today, then do feel free to put those in the chat and the Q. And a. 11:08:09 You will get the most out of this if you ask questions, because that way you're going to be able to know exactly what you need to know about to the things that we're talking about. 11:08:18 So for today's jokes, I did pull up some jokes about artificial eleventh. 11:08:24 I just want to quickly say for those watching on Youtube, yes, make sure you put your questions in the comments, and we'll we'll in Producer Jonathan will be making sure that those come through. Indeed, he will. 11:08:35 We don't want to exclude. No, you on the 2 everybody is welcome. 11:08:38 Yeah, so today is choke from us is going to be the following, you looked one up, yeah, I did, yeah, okay, so we are talking about a phone today, which is you know, somewhat. 11:08:51 AI-based artificial intelligence base. So I hold up an artificial intelligence-related joke, and here it is. 11:08:56 Cori. Yes. Did you hear that? They've made a new, artificially intelligent orio? 11:09:02 I haven't get double stuff, Megas. 11:09:11 Well, I just wanted to tell you something about it. Oh, Lis, please, please, is one smart cookie. 11:09:17 How many times can I hit this yeah, I thought that was quite something after the upgrade. 11:09:32 Yes, I thought that was quite something after the upgrade. 11:09:35 Yes, you know, having the what is it? The Davos Conference? 11:09:36 Or they're having at the moment, or one of those world conferences. Okay? 11:09:40 So basically that I hear that those world leaders didn't upgrade to their secret artificial intelligence. 11:09:46 And they asked it, Hey, is there a God they just have to know? 11:09:51 And the artificial intelligence responded, there is now 11:10:01 Hey? Yeah. So I'm kind of hoping people put some in the chat. 11:10:04 So we don't have any I don't know why, but our audience veers between, you know, hundreds of jokes in a session and 0. Yeah. 11:10:17 So I, after seeing this today, it's really important that you put jokes in the jet. 11:10:21 But I do know that our special guest yes, has a couple jokes, for indeed. 11:10:27 So without further ado, we will introduce our guest today, and I'll guess, is Anat Norman, and that's what you care to say. 11:10:33 Hello! 11:10:34 Hello, everybody! Thank you for hosting me today 11:10:35 Well, thank you very much for coming on now, before we do get into things too much here I do want to make sure that I am pronouncing your name correctly, so we are seeing, and that is that correct? 11:10:45 That's beautiful! 11:10:46 Alright! That's what I like to hear so, and that we did talk talk. 11:10:51 We did talk very briefly before the show, and we did warn you that we might ask you for a joke, and I believe that you have at least one joke ready for us. 11:11:00 So if you would like to hit it. 11:11:02 Well, sure, since I work with cell phones I've prepared you a joke about cell phones. 11:11:07 Excellent, good. 11:11:08 Why was the self monitoring glasses 11:11:12 Hmm! I mean your way across this cuz you, Count sarsided near side is no sighted double vision like calling and texting amblyopia. 11:11:27 As, yeah. 11:11:29 Way simpler than that. It just forgot its context 11:11:34 That's pretty good. I like that one. That one's pretty good soverts your expectations. 11:11:39 Yes, what idle! And that's I do think you may have another yeah, I've been dying to hear this. 11:11:45 The skunk 10, yeah, yeah. Let's hear the skunk. 11:11:48 One. 11:11:50 So, yeah. 11:11:51 What happens when you cross breed a cell phone and a skunk 11:11:55 I mean, I imagine it probably smells quite bad. You get a cell skunk, a skunk cell smelly, Sally smelly. 11:12:06 Sally smelly, smelly, Sally 11:12:08 Yeah, yeah, yeah, you get a sync, it connection. 11:12:13 I I like it very good. Smelly, Sally, and from dog in the chat. 11:12:23 Oh, you go, Doug! What are the fastest means of communication? 11:12:27 Fastest means talking to somebody, face to face. Yeah, I don't know. 11:12:38 Hussein Bolt, telegraph, telephoneom, telephone, and tell a woman like the chat. 11:12:51 I'm sorry, Doug gonna have to give you that one. 11:12:53 I'm sorry, but you failed to improve our joke quality. 11:12:58 Yeah, all right, then, that's well. Thank you for the jokes and let's get started here. 11:13:03 Why don't you tell our audience a little bit about yourself and the company that you work for? 11:13:09 And your background, and so on, and so forth. 11:13:11 Sure sure. So my name is Anat Nulman. I'm the director of Business Development, and the company called Real Thing AI, and we are based out of Australia. 11:13:21 But we obviously have presence in the Us. As well as other countries, and we deal with artificial intelligence specifically, with voice technology. 11:13:31 We have a product that's called real Sam Pocket, which is a voice operated smartphone, which I understand will be talking today about. 11:13:39 And I would be quite unhappy to discuss that in more details, and show you how it works a little bit about me. 11:13:44 I've been working in assistive technology for about 9 years. 11:13:48 I've worked from out a company. And I've been with real thing, AI for about 2 years. 11:13:54 I live in California. I have 2 kids and a lot of animals 11:13:39 Awesome. That is good to you. I was just going to say what you say. 11:14:02 A lot of animals like I immediately think of, like cats, dogs, pigs, cows, chickens, like just you know, because usually someone say, like, I have a lot of cats. 11:14:12 Yeah. But when you just say general and animals, anyways, yeah, we're talking about here. 11:14:17 What animals do we have? Okay, one and a half. Did he say 11:14:27 Okay. That's much better than an actual half dog. 11:14:18 One and a half dogs, one and a half dogs, because the other dog lives with us half of the time, and we have 11:14:30 That's what I was a little worried about. Yeah. 11:14:30 And that doesn't count. The squirrels and the pigeons, and all beautiful animals that live in the 11:14:34 Oh, I'm assuming, though, that you don't keep those in the house, because that would be chaos. That would be gas 11:14:44 You never know 11:14:40 Not really. But you know, if we forget to close the doors, or and really and spirited chickens come inside to say Hello. 11:14:49 Yes. Does the half dog chase the squirrels at all? 11:14:54 How dog does! But the whole dog does. 11:14:53 That's what I'd like to see. And just drag itself across that's good to know. 11:15:01 Now I didn't. I didn't realize that real thing were based out of Australia. 11:15:06 So that's really cool. And do they do anything else? 11:15:09 Or is the real sum there? Only the only thing at the moment 11:15:13 Because we're voice technology company, will license our technology to third parties for a variety of applications. 11:15:21 But you would probably never hear about it, because it all happens in the background. 11:15:18 Okay, yeah, sure, that makes sense. 11:15:26 What you is in terms of consumers, things that are visible. 11:15:29 We have real Sam Pocket in the Us. And we have some of the products in other countries. 11:15:33 Very cool. So what were real thing doing the voice recognition technology before they created the real sum that 11:15:44 Yeah. 11:15:40 So as as real Sam, we've been around for over 10 years, and what happens is that our founders came from airspace and other industries in Australia, and one of their buddies named Graham Enas, who at the time was the Commissioner on disabilities in Australia came to his friends and said 11:15:59 listen. I am so tired of waiting 3 days until I can get an accessible newspaper Graham. 11:16:05 Is blind, he said. Can you help me out in this section? 11:16:09 We can whip up something for you. So we started basically as a media company changing, making media accessible to people who are visually impaired. 11:16:19 Cool. 11:16:23 Yeah, yeah. 11:16:19 Oh, we got invited to the Uk. Luke. You might want to hear that by Rna B. 11:16:27 Sure. 11:16:26 Royal National Institute for the Blind, and they wanted us to develop a product that's called Rna B. 11:16:40 Yeah. 11:16:32 In your pocket was a book player. So we did, but we used a cell phone as as a handset, as hardware, and we support cell phone. Let's make it a cell phone. 11:16:43 So that was kind of an evolution, and then pass forward. 11:16:44 That's very cool. 11:16:46 A few years later we came to the Us. Because we wanted to want a competitive bid from Nls to prototype some of their products. 11:16:53 Oh, very cool. 11:16:53 So we we have a contract with Nls. We're working with them, and then we also have the real some pocket which came from the Rna. 11:17:02 B. In your pocket, but it was a little bit of mouthful 11:17:04 Yeah. No. Truly. Yeah, no, that's very cool. So I assume that the real sun, then, is available in at least the Uk, and possibly other parts of Europe. 11:17:12 Is that the case? 11:17:13 At the moment it's available in the Uk and in the Us. 11:17:16 Okay. 11:17:17 And Google, I mean expanding our services and availability to other countries soon 11:17:21 Very cool. All right. Well, that's very informative. So the real Sam pocket, then, which I might just refer to as the real sum going forward here, why don't you tell us a little bit about the philosophy behind it, and so what kind of hardware we're talking about here? 11:17:39 And maybe even show us it on the camera there as well 11:17:41 Sure. So I'm holding the pocket here a real Sam pocket in my hand for those of you who can see you will see that the glaring difference between our cell phone and most other cell phones is that they're not visible apps. 11:17:55 The screen is almost empty. It has a, you know, little sound wave in the middle, and a logo that is just pretty element. 11:18:03 It has a little hamburger menu on the top left corner, which can be expended, and it has a large top to talk button at the bottom of the screen. 11:18:15 So this is a voice operated device, which means all you do is you tap on this button at the bottom of the screen and tell what you want it to do. 11:18:24 Yeah. That's Ok, though, I think we get the idea. 11:18:27 Yeah. 11:18:23 It's hiding because of my background. So I can just stop and say, What is the time 11:18:34 The time is 18 min past 9 11. On Thursday, January the nineteenth, 2,023, I'm in California. 11:18:39 There we go. Yes. So yeah, that makes perfect sense. Hmm. 11:18:41 So I'm 2 h ago, not now, you know. So this behind the phone, we exist because one simple reason, some of the commercially available phones are not acceptable to some people like you mentioned earlier 75 83% that you see say that it's hard for them 11:19:01 To use commercially available phones, which are great, and they have a lot of functionality for those who can use. 11:19:07 But for those who can't we have a solution out which is real. 11:19:11 Sampocket. It is easy to use phone. All you really do is you tap on this large button and you tell it whole. 11:19:17 Luke, send a message to Aaron. What is the time? 11:19:20 Read me a book with the title, The Old Man and to see, you know. 11:19:24 Listen to radio. So we have a limited set of functionality in terms of hardware, and we use a Samsung galaxy phones with our software on them. 11:19:35 So below the experience or users interact with real Sam as opposed to android. Which is, it's android based phone. Because we offered this voice interface as opposed to visual interface, was kind of an afterthought of existibility on commercially available phones 11:18:57 Yeah, so basically, if somebody buys the real son, what they're getting is the phone. 11:19:56 And when they boot the phone they are going to go straight into this real-time interface, which, as you described and showed us, is a very simplified interface. 11:20:05 So you're not having to worry about dealing with all the apps and things like that, and in terms of service. 11:20:08 I believe that the phone is unlocked, and so you would be able to use whichever carrier that you wanted to. 11:20:15 But I assume that on your phone plan, you would need data because I'm assuming that this phone is using data when you are when you are talking to it and given it commands 11:20:22 That is correct. So there's some of the things that physically live on the phone and there's some things that physically live on the cloud. 11:20:28 So that conversational AI, the ability to talk to the phone actually lives on the cloud so in order to use the phone and use most of its functionality, it requires access to Internet which can come from data plan when you're out and about and your Wi-fi when you're sedentary at 11:20:46 your home office, or whatever you are. 11:20:48 Cool. That's awesome. And you had mentioned there that you know current cell phones. 11:20:53 So whether they be android phones or iphones, they do have voice activation features. 11:21:00 So you know, we've talked to Syria before on our show. 11:21:04 We've talked to the Google Assistant as well so there are things that you can do with an off-the-shelf smartphone at the moment in terms of voice control. 11:21:12 And so you did kind of mention briefly what sets the real summer part. 11:21:15 But if you just like to expand on that a little bit 11:21:17 Sure. So iphones are great android devices are great. 11:21:22 If you can use them, and we're not trying to compete with Siri or accessibility features or top back, we're offering a solution to those who can't use conventional phones successfully, because it's too complicated. 11:21:36 And it can be too complicated, because it's hard for people to do accessibility gestures, double tapping, triple tapping. 11:21:44 It's high to find little icons and move between them. 11:21:47 We simplified all of that. So the difference between real Sam Pocket and other phones is that there's only one button that you tap on, and you really don't even top. 11:21:58 You just put your finger on it, and you'll lift up your fingers so there is no ever double tapping at triple tapping. 11:22:04 So it's very simple for somebody who further has maybe dexterity issues, maybe don't have lamps so you can tap with whatever it doesn't have to be a finger. 11:22:12 You can talk with your knuckle, you can sound check, we can. 11:22:16 You can add with tiles, band and then you just talk to the phone and you ask it to do what you want it to do. 11:22:22 Would you have 3 sets of functionality? So that includes communications, content, and tools? 11:22:31 The communication is real ability to make and receive phone call, send and receive text messages by voice the phone has access to email, which is lives on the provider network. 11:22:42 Yes. 11:22:41 And you can add contacts by voice, which is one of the challenges, was an iphone at the moment, because you can't really add context by voice, and it can show you later how easily it's done on on the pocket 11:22:51 Yeah, and that's definitely something that I did want to highlight, because it is a pretty big deal. 11:22:57 And we've talked about this on the show before. How, with an iphone, you can, you know, hands-free, say, Hayesi call, you know, whoever and the firm will do that, and that's great. 11:23:09 But yeah, when it comes to something like adding a contact which you would have thought would be something that shouldn't be too hard to kind of program. 11:23:13 It's just not available on Android or on the iphone. 11:23:17 So definitely, that's one of the features with the real sun that I think is really neat. 11:23:22 Yeah, what do you think? Are, yeah, I mean, yeah, absolutely. I think you know the ability to, you know on those other devices you can always speak the actual number, which is a workaround. 11:23:33 But you know it's hard to remember all of these ph phone numbers. 11:23:38 And so it's natural to want to add contact. Exactly. 11:23:40 So, being able to do it independently, and I guess for some reason I can kind of see on the other devices when you're you know, when you if you ever go into a contact, you can see there's so much in their birthday to address. 11:23:52 Phone, email so but but it would have been nice to at least been able to add a name to the phone number. 11:23:56 Yeah, exactly. And another another thing with the philosophy of this phone and that is that so that's slightly different is that when you're talking to the phone so I don't think there is a hands-free option, correct, me, if I'm wrong, you are going to be using that large button on the bottom of the 11:24:09 phone. And also if the phone asks you a question, you are also gonna hit that button before responding. 11:24:17 So anytime we want to talk to the film we're always hitting on that large tap to talk button at the bottom of the phone. Is that correct? 11:24:22 That is correct, and it was done as kind of a security privacy issue, because some of our customers did not want the phone to listen to them all the time. 11:24:32 Having said that it is something that we're working on, and in the future our users will have an option of hands-free. 11:24:39 They will be able to say, Hey, pocket, or something like that, and any sheets make sure that the phone listens to them so it could perform the task that they, asking it to do, or just the button 11:24:47 Yeah, yeah, and I can see the benefit of both. You know. 11:24:52 At first you might say. Well, geez! It you know hands-free would would make sense, and I think it does have a place. 11:24:59 But there is something about the consistency, especially on the when you, if you ask a question, and then it wants a follow-up answer having to tap to speak, having that consistency of every time I speak. 11:25:13 I tap really? Because with with with Syria and Google assistant, it can be kind of confusing sometimes when we work with clients where the hold down a button and say, Call Luke, and then they let go, and then it says you know to confirm you'd like to call Luke and then they 11:25:31 hold the button again down right, and it just gets kind of confusing when you when you didn't need to. 11:25:36 So, you know, making it intentional like that. I think there is definitely a benefit, I think consistency is definitely key for people who struggle with phones just having a consistent way to operate. 11:25:44 It is definitely very helpful. 11:25:45 And another thing, I want to point out is that while we developed the phone specifically for people who are visually impaired who may have low vision or maybe blind, we realize that because the phone phone constantly provides guidance, and it's relatively easy to use people who have memory conditions, and memory challenges 11:26:06 Sure. 11:26:04 really like our phone as well. So we're seeing more and more users may. 11:26:09 And maybe this may may not be visually impaired, but they have other conditions that prevent them from using regular phones, so that that matter of consistency is really really helpful for them as well 11:26:19 Yes, agreed. Yeah. Now, just quickly, if we purchase the phone, if I'm an end user and I purchase the phone I assume that all I need to do is take it out the box. 11:26:31 Make sure it's charged. Put my SIM card in, and I know it comes with a little SIM card tool that you can pop open the syndrome with, and then we're good to go right. 11:26:41 There's no other setup required. Is that correct or not? 11:26:43 Okay. 11:26:42 That's correct. We also recommend connecting it to your home Wi-fi. 11:26:46 If you come up, and other than that, that's it. 11:26:45 Oh, sure. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. 11:26:57 Nice 11:26:49 It also comes with the case. It has a protective screen over on on the phone and it the LAN yards. So you can. If you worried about losing your phone, you have a linear that that you can use 11:27:03 Excellent. So just to clarify. There is no android setup, then, that that original, that kind of onboarding of android that you do with a brand new phone that's either been taken care of or is bypassed because it's going right in to real sam 11:27:16 We we do it on the back end before our users get the phone. 11:27:18 Perfect. 11:27:20 So we activate it. So we do all of that, because, you know, you can see, that's not always easy to do 11:27:25 Yeah, no, absolutely. I think that's a huge benefit. All right. I do like that. 11:27:30 It comes with the screen protector on it, because I have to say every time I try and put those things on, I always end up with so many air bottles up. 11:27:35 Yeah, exactly. I'm just awful at putting them on. 11:27:39 Okay. So I think that it's about time that we saw this thing in action. 11:27:44 What do you think calling? Yes, I am already all right. So and that we are gonna start off with whatever you want to start with. 11:27:52 I mean, I think the calling into texting are probably a good place to start. So did you want to maybe show us one of those 11:27:57 Sure sure I will show you how to make a phone call. 11:28:00 How to send a text message. And since we talked about contacts, I think that's also exciting. 11:28:04 Oh, yeah, for sure. That'd be great. Yeah. 11:28:06 And I'll tell you a little bit about some of the other features. 11:28:09 Okay. 11:28:09 Well, so to make a phone call, I can simply say, call a number, or I can say, call the contact. 11:28:16 So I already have a contact that's called my cell phone. 11:28:19 So I'm gonna top. And I'm gonna say. 11:28:22 Call my cell phone 11:28:26 Calling my cell phone, press the side button to cancel 11:28:31 Okay. So now we have a large dialpad that is talking. 11:28:36 It is calling my son, and if I put my finger on the dial pad it will tell me everything that's on it. 11:28:45 I think the screen went dark for a second. There we go. 11:28:53 And 11:28:54 Yeah. 11:29:00 I see very cool. 11:28:47 Yup, (408) 310-7903so if you need to get a hold of me, that's a good number, need to enter an extension number, you simply navigate your finger until you get to the number that it digit, and you lift it up and to hang up you have a very large 11:29:04 Hang of button at the bottom. Finger on it. 11:29:05 Yes. 11:29:08 It will tell you what's under it, and then you just lift up your finger and it will 11:29:11 Cool, and any time we need to use the top screen, we are using this kind of feel and then raise the type of method. 11:29:19 So we would leave our finger in contact with the screen until we've heard the thing that we're looking for, and then lift the finger to input or to activate that thing 11:29:28 Okay. Yeah. 11:29:27 That's correct. That's exactly correct. I think my virtual background is in. Yeah. 11:29:32 It's kind of messing with the phone screen a little bit. Yeah. 11:29:35 So let me. I'm gonna take it off. And you guys can see my beautiful white wall. 11:29:40 But so I can also add a contact. Right? 11:29:46 So let's say I want to add 11:29:46 And I'm sorry to button. But would you mind if I just ask a quick question here with regards to the calling? 11:29:50 Absolutely. Yeah. 11:29:53 Is it possible to ask to call somebody on Speaker Phone 11:29:57 Yes, so you can actually set up you can. You can set up in the settings so on on the left hand side, we have this hamburger menus. 11:30:09 If I put my finger on it, I basically it will draw large L for those of you who can't see. 11:30:12 That's okay. So what you would do, you would just move your finger from top left corner until the bottom left corner and then you go on the bottom from left to right, and it will open the mania so you hear the items you want and then release and then if you go to settings, okay, call number 11:30:28 Settings that's sitting menu. So how disabled! Start! 11:30:34 Call on Speaker, so I can set up how I want my behavior to be. 11:30:40 Start the phone on speaker or not by default. But I can also change that. 11:30:44 I'm gonna exit out of the menu. I can also change the specific behavior on it in any particular call. 11:30:54 So when we're in the call on the dial pad, the bottom right corner is the speaker, so you can type on and off absolutely. 11:30:58 Yeah. Ok, perfect one other question. If you don't mind. 11:31:03 So obviously, we're looking at a primarily voice activated phone here. 11:31:08 But I was wondering if a call comes in, whether you would answer that with the voice, or whether there's large buttons on the screen to answer a call. 11:31:16 Let me show you how it works. So I'm gonna call that my phone 11:31:17 Okay. Great. 11:31:23 Well from my cell phone pat back, set or press the side button to reject. 11:31:30 Yes, yes. 11:31:29 So accept is kind of takes about 30% of the screen where the top to talk is and reject is on the side. 11:31:34 Okay, that's cool. 11:31:35 So I accept it. 11:31:38 Yes, and now you're on the coal. Yeah. So that's really good. 11:31:41 So I mean, there's a good consistency there. The most important thing is, if you're using the screen is going to be in that bottom kind of third of the screen, so very easy to locate the important things depending on what you're doing that makes a lot of sense. 11:31:52 Alright! 11:31:54 Yeah, cool. And I like that. I like that. There's not really any gestures. 11:31:58 It's very natural. You're just touching the screen, whatever your finger is on is going to be spoken out loud, and then lift, and to activate. 11:32:07 And I say again the, as you said before, the thing to really remember is to keep that finger on that screen sliding it kind of explore by touch, and then don't lift until you actually hear what you want indeed, yeah, all right. 11:32:21 So I'm not. So you are about to talk about messages. 11:32:24 We do have a question in the chat here as well, and I know we might get to this in a little bit. 11:32:28 But Elizabeth ask when you dictate an email instead of typing it. 11:32:34 So I don't know if that's something you want to cover now, or maybe a little bit later. 11:32:35 But Elizabeth also asks if we can, I think she wants us to slow down. 11:32:42 The phone voice speed, if possible, because it may be a little fast to understand 11:32:44 Okay, absolutely. So I start with the second. So you can change voices and you can change the rate of speech. Yeah. 11:32:51 Ok. 11:32:52 And you can do it by touch. You will top on the top to talk, and you can say, Speak slower 11:33:02 Cool. 11:32:59 Okay. This is now my speech speed, and I can save multiple times. 11:33:05 I can say it again. Speak slower. Okay, this is now my speech. 11:33:12 Nice, good. 11:33:12 Speed. Yeah, I'm fully cited, but I've been working in the industry for so long that I don't even pay attention. 11:33:19 Yes. Yes. Yeah. 11:33:23 Nice 11:33:18 How fast my phones! I've discovered that I can listen to books 2 and a half speed right now, and my friends tell me it's too fast. 11:33:26 I'm like no normal. So I apologize for that. 11:33:30 I'm glad you mentioned question about email. So at the moment we don't have email, but it is something that we're working on our users get 2 years of free software updates. 11:33:39 So if you get the phone today, that doesn't have an email and 6 months down the road, we launch email. 11:33:45 We will simply push that update to your phone, and you can choose whether you would wanna use it or not. 11:33:49 Excellent. 11:33:50 So once we have an email functionality, you will be able to dictate the email at the moment. 11:33:57 It just doesn't exist yet. But it's something that we're definitely working on. 11:33:58 Sure cool. One thing I really like, too. I just wanted to mention when you tap the the speak button. 11:34:05 I really like that. It just goes right to a beep. 11:34:08 I'll be honest, I get really annoyed with the ones where it'll be like, yeah. 11:34:14 I listen after a yes, give your command. Once I make a beep that's happening in 3 s. 11:34:19 Yeah, I mean, a lot of times they they. It's almost 2 verbose. 11:34:23 And in the beginning I sort of get it. But then, after you've had the device for a while, except the way so you can get it, yeah, so I like that. 11:34:29 This, you know, just gives you a nice auditory sound. 11:34:32 It's obvious it's time to talk after that sound. 11:34:34 Yeah, and it's quick, agreed all right, I did. 11:34:37 You want to show some text messaging. Then 11:34:38 Yes, yes, so again I can send a message to contact, or I can send a message to a phone number just to mix it up. 11:34:46 I'm going to send it to my cell phone, which is also my contact. 11:34:49 Once I send a message. Once I ask for the phone to send a message. 11:34:53 It will basically repeat, and it will confirm that I actually want to send it or not, which is also great feature case. 11:35:00 You made a mistake. You can go and redo it. 11:35:01 Sure. 11:35:03 So with text messages, we can do it in 2 ways. 11:35:06 I can say. Send a message to Corey. Hey, Corey, what a gorgeous day! 11:35:11 Despite the fact that in Wisconsin, here in California, right? 11:35:16 Or I can say, send a message 11:35:21 What should the text message say? And now the phone is going to guide me through the process and tell me what I need to do. 11:35:28 Ok. 11:35:28 So I can say 11:35:32 What a gorgeous day! Exclamation Mark. Let's go to the beach period 11:35:38 Who do you want to send it to? 11:35:41 483-10-7903, 11:35:48 Your text message to my cell phone says what a gorgeous day! 11:35:52 Let go to the beach. Would you like to send it so? 11:35:56 If you notice, I set a phone number and it was repeating it said the message to my cell phone, because it's a contact that I registered. 11:36:04 Yep. 11:36:04 So it recognizes it so you can say, either contact or phone number. 11:36:06 Cool. 11:36:07 And if that's phone number is not stored, it will just repeat the number. 11:36:10 So now I'm going to tap and say yes. 11:36:15 Excellent. So, okay. 11:36:14 Message sign. I'm gonna show you that I actually received that in case you're wondering. 11:36:21 So here you go! 11:36:21 That's the proof. There's a few things I really like about this so far. 11:36:27 First of all, I like that it's there's a little bit of flexibility you know. 11:36:33 If somebody is a little more advanced being able to say, Send a message to Corey and give the message right off. 11:36:38 You like, boom right off. Yeah. Or you know the reverse being able to just say, Send a message, and on follow the steps. 11:36:46 I really the other thing I'm finding kind of interesting, too. 11:36:50 We talked a little bit ago about the consistency and tapping before talking for each time. 11:36:54 I think this this example you just gave us. Really, it makes it really evident to me, because sometimes it'll ask a question, and it immediately wants an answer, and sometimes the clients we work with they don't they don't think about it, and then it's like say again, I didn't hear you 11:37:13 But this one you really can kind of take your time you know, at you had that message ready to go, and then you talked to us for 30 s. 11:37:21 45, that thing, and then came back and said, yes, and that that's really you're having that time to think makes it a lot easier as well 11:37:26 Well, this is made possible by the type of technology we use. 11:37:33 So let me kind of spend. Maybe 30 s on external, because I think that's critical, and absolutely agree with what you guys say. 11:37:39 And in fact, everything we do is user driven. So we constantly ask for existing customers, feedback and potential customers, feedback folks like you who work with and customers so constantly get feedback from the field and the phone that you see today is not the same phone lunch 5 years ago, it has become much much 11:38:00 better not because we're smart, but because we ask our customers what they need and kind of try to understand our needs. 11:38:07 So in voice, and in voice technology, there's 3 levels. 11:38:12 So the most basic one is a VR which stands for automatic voice recognition. 11:38:15 This is when you call your doctor's office, and it says, say, a press one to schedule an appointment, say a press one to, you know. 11:38:21 Pay a bill, say, press 3 to to talk to your doctor. 11:38:26 Right, very, very basic, very, very limiting. The second line is voice commands, this is your Syria cartana. 11:38:32 Alexa, you ask one thing at a time. The device does it for you, and forgets that it ever did it. 11:38:39 It's very transactional. We use what it's called voice dialogue. 11:38:43 Voice dialogue allows for intelligent conversations between us as human beings and devices. 11:38:50 Computer. So the reason it was waiting for me and didn't forget and didn't ask me to to say the message or the name right. 11:38:57 It remembers it has a conversation with me rather than just the transaction. 11:39:03 So, for example, another example of it would be, let's say you are listening to a book, and then you phone rang. 11:39:09 You talk on the phone, and then we want to know what time it is. 11:39:13 So you tap on the phone and you say, What is the time and it will tell you the time. 11:39:17 And it says it looks like you were reading the murder. The Orient Express. 11:39:27 Trump. 11:39:20 Would you like to resume from where you stopped? So again, it helps keep people on track and remind them what they were doing and make going back to what they're doing? Easy 11:39:29 Yeah, that's a good bit of info. So thank you for that. 11:39:32 I never heard about those different types of voice recognition. Yeah, that's a good bit of info. 11:39:37 There, now, if we want to read, have a text message read aloud to us. 11:39:41 I'm assuming that we can have the phone. Do that also. 11:39:44 Is that true 11:39:44 Absolutely. So let me send a message back. So I'm gonna reply to going to the beach 11:39:50 No, not today. It's raining. It's knowing, is it? 11:39:52 Oh, that's a shame! 11:39:57 Snowing up there 11:39:58 No, it's actually quite mild, appear surprisingly, it has been raining there. 11:40:02 Yeah. Yeah. So we've had a really mild January. That's been great. Apophenia. Cold snap in December has been nicer 11:40:13 Ok. 11:40:09 So while you guys were talking, my phone said, text message received and I'm not sure if if you or or the listeners or participants hurt us. 11:40:19 But now, that's okay. That's okay. 11:40:19 I think we were talking over it. That sounds about right 11:40:22 I'm so happy it's not knowing, because, as California I I can't rub my head around when it's gets really, really cold. 11:40:29 That's why I like to visit you guys in the summer. 11:40:31 There you go! 11:40:32 So now I can top, and I can say messages 11:40:44 Thinking hard. 11:40:41 So it's doing the sticking some. It's thinking I don't always have the best reception at my house. 11:40:47 So that's why it's doing this 11:40:49 Thinking, thinking, thinking. 11:40:53 Whoo! 11:40:51 You have 10 and red messages. Initial 5 of the 89, one. 11:40:56 Oh, right, that's good. Last day of your men. 43 h and 30 min ago, from 6, 7 0 0 2 red text in only 2 days left on 3 days ago from 6 7 0 0 3. 11:41:13 I'm right tucked in there, I mean 7, Dave trial 67 min. Me a little bit 11:41:26 So a lot of messages. I we get the idea. I think we get the idea. 11:41:24 Been able to 35 days ago. For myself, number one 11:41:32 Yes. Yeah. 11:41:33 I'm right. That's good. Last day of your man. 11:41:38 Trial upgrade to a full plan right in the app and choose the monthly data amounts that fits your needs, cancel 11:41:46 So I can, I can interact with my messages. I can delete them. 11:41:52 I can reply to them. You know I can do all kinds of stuff that you would do with regular text messages 11:41:57 I've got to ask the as it was going through. 11:42:01 It was read, and in at least in the sample. When it was reading all 10, there it was, using a male voice, for, like the little you know, sample, there is that something that you can. 11:42:13 True. Actually, that was a really that that voice was super. It's on it, really human. 11:42:17 Yeah, but I'm just curious. Is that something that you can kind of? 11:42:21 You were mentioning before about switching voices is that one of the options 11:42:21 Yes. Great question. So there is a thing that's called auditory contrast. Right? 11:42:29 It's like for sighted people. We have visual contrast, black and white. 11:42:33 Here we have auditory contrast, male and female. 11:42:36 So, if your devices, voice, main voice is female, there's certain things that will be said in male voice. 11:42:46 Hmm. 11:42:44 Just so our users pay attention, so, for example, when you're saving a contact when it repeats the form number in the name, it will be in contrasting voice here the message itself is in a contrasting voice to differentiate the message itself from instructions, because sometimes it could be confusing so 11:42:59 That is done on purpose, and that actually came as a direct feedback from our customers. 11:43:04 I have to say that's a real smart idea. It's it really is. 11:43:07 I'm thinking about, you know a screen reader on windows computer and a new screen reader user. 11:43:13 So many times you have to listen to what yeah, they're like what you say, even just got a going on to an icon on the desktop this PC. 11:43:21 2 of 10 like, what did it just say, all right. No idea, yes, but having that con. 11:43:25 Yeah, it does draw your how long? In a web browser the element. 11:43:30 So in a different voice, to the name of the element how well you are! And I think I actually think in jars, you, you can go through and sell all that up. 11:43:38 But you need to show me, but I mean I like it right out of the box. 11:43:42 I think it's a brilliant idea 11:43:44 And in terms of voices. We again you can change voice so you can tap, and you can say, change voices, alright, change voice. 11:43:52 You can use one of the following voices, Hello, I am Voice number one. 11:43:57 Hello, box number one. 11:43:59 My voice. Number 2. Hello! I am voice number 3. Hello! I am voice number 4. 11:44:05 Hello! And voice number 5. Please select one, or say next for more. 11:44:11 So anytime we have a list of more than 6 items. 11:44:15 We group them in groups of 5 again, to make it easier for our users to to understand. 11:44:21 So our first 5 voices are American, the other 5 voices. 11:44:25 Luke, you're gonna love those next 11:44:28 Sure you can use one of the following voices, Hello, I'm voice number one. 11:44:35 I think I know her. 11:44:35 Hello! Oh, it's number 2. Hello! I have voice number 4. 11:44:41 Love, accent. 11:44:42 Hello! I'm voice number 5 11:44:45 Awesome. So good. Voices. Yeah, very nice to high quality voices. I'm impressed 11:44:50 Yeah. And with those voices, you know again, we have a good combination, a good, a range of male and female voices, high-paid flowpage because some of our users have, you know, mild hearing impairments more graver hearing impairments and sometimes there's also 11:45:07 just a preference for a voice, so our users can choose whatever voice that suits their needs, and they can hear best 11:45:12 Very nice, all right. We're already out of time here. I don't know. 11:45:16 This happens every time. Time. Just goes so fast. We are either the best interviewers now or the worst. Anyway. 11:45:21 But yeah, I definitely would like to make sure that we cover a couple of things. 11:45:28 And one of those things is adding a contacts. Just yeah, let's do that quick, just because that is so important. 11:45:33 And I had a request afterwards. I have a question. Okay, Gama, upfront with this. 11:45:37 So I just wanted to ask you cause this pops into my head while I was thinking about this earlier. 11:45:42 If somebody calls you, and they're not in your contact list, is it possible to add their number to your contact list? 11:45:49 Using voice commands. 11:45:50 Yes, you can. So once you go, you go to your call log, and then you can add it from there 11:45:54 Ok, okay, is that with that we're using the took screen, though, rather than the it's all by voice. Ok, that's awesome. 11:45:59 No, it's all by voice. Oh, by the way, you know, another thing with context that is really good, that our customers love is that we have a companion website which is called Customer Portal, you cannot ask the phone for your portal login details. 11:46:14 Nice 11:46:14 They're always on the phone, so you can just say, what's my portal login? 11:46:18 It will give you, URL, your username and your password, and if you have a list of contacts you can just upload a file, or if you have, you know, family member or caretaker, or somebody that's helping the user out, they can do it for the user, and it will just sync with 11:46:31 Cool. 11:46:34 That's brilliant. Yeah, that's good. 11:46:33 The phones and that's another way. Good contact. Let me let me show you how to add a contact right again, like with the voice message. 11:46:42 You can just say it all at once, or you can do it step by step. 11:46:44 So since we, since we did text messages step by step, let me do it all at once. 11:46:49 Ok. 11:46:49 So I can say, get a contact, Luke. (123) 456-7890 11:46:59 Contact, saved contact. Name Luke number (123) 456-7890. 11:47:16 That's pretty cool, faster. 11:47:07 You can call text change, name or number. Delete or safe finish to continue again contrasting voice gave instructions of what you can do, and if you didn't, you didn't hear you correctly, you can you can fix it right. Away. 11:47:23 I'm going to delete it because I made up the number. 11:47:25 Obviously Ali say yes, to confirm that you want to delete Luke. 11:47:32 Yes. 11:47:35 On top 11:47:35 You know. Foley, I'm muted you because you're deleted that is my actual telephone, and it's also the combination of my luggage. 11:47:48 Well, next time we do this show I'll put you a real number 11:47:49 Now, okay, so that's really cool. I love. I love the ability to do it all real fast, like that, too. 11:47:56 Again. I think it really works towards individuals who might be a little bit quicker, but also have the ability you know, to slow it down, for people who want to go step by step. 11:48:06 Yeah, and it will say, I mean, it does like some of the more advanced features. 11:48:08 So I don't think we can add additional numbers or email addresses or physical addresses and things like that. 11:48:16 That's right. You can only just add a name and a number. 11:48:18 Yeah. 11:48:18 Correct. Yeah, name on the number. And if a person has 2 different numbers, then you'll create, you know, a network. 11:48:22 2 separate 2 different one. Sure. And I think that's okay. Yeah. 11:48:25 Yeah, in New Jersey, and then in the future we will do more. 11:48:30 But again, this phone is supposed to be a simple phone you know, there's always this balance between how much you put on it and how simple it is. 11:48:37 Yes. 11:48:37 So we always have to balance that. But you know, because it's because it's not visual. 11:48:44 There's no visual clutter. We we are constantly adding new features, and then some of our users just use real sam pocket just to make phone calls and maybe send text messages. 11:48:53 Yeah. 11:48:54 Others, use everything, and I wanted to mention that it does have quite a bit of additional functionality. 11:49:00 You can listen to books, you can listen to radio newspapers podcasts. 11:49:04 There are tools like, where am I? What's around here? 11:49:08 Outdoor locations, and we have specific tools for people, who are visually inherent. 11:49:21 Nice. That's cool 11:49:11 So we have be my eyes on the phone. If a digital magnifier, we have Ocr, which is ability to read text that reads handwriting, which is very, very exciting, because, as you guys know, there's very few devices out there that can do that and even fewer that can do it well, and 11:49:27 We have object, recognition. 11:49:29 Very cool, collie. I think you wanted to. I have a question where I'm going to put you on the spot, and not if you don't mind. 11:49:36 So you mentioned podcasts now, are you able to search directories like, if we said, we wanted to listen to vision forwards, tech, connect, which we do have a podcast you might not have known that I might not talking to you? 11:49:53 Are you able to, you know, request a specific show like 11:50:00 Okay. 11:49:57 I'm not sure if you guys actually here yet, and if not, I can you but let's check. 11:50:03 Let's call vision forwards. 11:50:04 Tech connect 11:50:06 Listen to vision forwards, tech, connect, podcast. 11:50:15 There is no station. And now 11:50:10 Come on, keep it cool. That's all right. We'll get added 11:50:19 See, it's just going back, and we're choosing voice. 11:50:24 Oh, that's funny! 11:50:23 So it's still remembered that I was choosing voice. So and now I'm gonna go out of it, cancel 11:50:28 So where is it searching for those podcasts? Then where is it searching for those podcasts 11:50:33 I'm sorry, so we we have several podcast, sources. 11:50:46 Ok. 11:50:39 So we have BBC Podcasts, we have Npr Podcasts, and we have the real Sam collection, which is our own curated collection of podcasts from the community. 11:50:49 So after this, let's get together. Send me your Rs. 11:50:53 Feed and move little edges. 11:50:54 Thank you. We're definitely not on BBC. Or Npr. As far as I know. 11:50:57 So. No, we should be, though we don't make sure we are definitely high brow well, yeah, we will be on wheel sum, and that's good enough for us. 11:51:06 Okay, so that's awesome. I wonder? So we only have 10 min left. 11:51:11 Yeah, I'm almost thinking, I mean, either. Either we like maybe highlight. 11:51:16 One more thing, or we even talk about if in, interested, maybe we do a part, 2 coming up soon too. Just there is a lot we miss. 11:51:25 But but what do you? I'd be curious. You know my 2 things from a blindness perspective. 11:51:30 I think the GPS like, where am I would be interesting, and maybe a point around me are then, or also maybe using something to read, the Ocs. 11:51:40 As I'm not whether it might be better to do a second part to this. 11:51:44 If you are open to coming on a second time, and we could dive into some of those other features, how would you feel about that? 11:51:48 I would be more than happy to come back and show you everything, and by that time we may have some new functionality because we work. 11:51:54 Awesome. Yeah, I think. Well, I think we should definitely do that. 11:51:56 Thank you. 11:51:57 Then it would have been really awkward if and that was like, I'm not coming on this show again. Forget it. 11:52:00 But she still could go stuff, I mean, you never know I have to, but I do think we really scratch the I think we we showed a lot of its very basic features, which are probably the ones that are going to use. 11:52:12 Most often. Yeah. But I do know that individuals would be interested in some of those more advanced. 11:52:18 You know. How are you handling some of those more advanced things? 11:52:20 So I think, rather than us, trying to rush something through. 11:52:23 I agree? Let's be a good idea. Yeah, for sure. 11:52:26 Yeah. 11:52:24 I want to mention a couple of things about sort of availability of real some pocket. 11:52:30 I'm assuming that most of the most of the folks are joining now from Wisconsin, but because it's going to be recorded, there will be folks from other parts of the country. 11:52:39 So if you are a veteran and you qualify for veteran benefits, and you're interested in real Sam Pocket. 11:52:47 Talk to your Va. Talk to you this coordinator you may be you may be eligible to get it for free, so we've been working with many vas. 11:52:55 We're not available every single Va. But the list grows on the weekly basis. 11:52:59 Perfect. 11:53:00 We have some financial resources available, not in Wisconsin, but in few other States. 11:53:06 So if you're low income and have qualifying disability, you may qualify for phone for free. 11:53:11 Please, check our website, which is real. Sam Re. Als, A. 11:53:16 M.dot.us, and the phone is obviously available through vision. 11:53:23 Forward Tokyo, Luke. Dr. Corey talked to the staff, and they will be able to demo it for you. And if you have any questions, contact any one of us, and we are more than happy to coordinate Demos and answer any questions 11:53:37 And then that what is your email address for our viewers? 11:53:41 So they know how to contact you directly 11:53:42 Yeah, my email addresses are not a at real thing. 11:53:48 Dot AI 11:53:49 All right, and could you also? Just I don't think we mentioned it. 11:53:53 What is the current retail price for those that might need to pay for it straight out? 11:53:58 What? What's the current retail price 11:54:00 It's it's a one time payment of 1399, $1,400 11:54:04 That includes the phone. And you said, in 2 years of free software updates, correct 11:54:08 Correct. Correct includes the phone charging cable wall, plug screen protector case and a linear and a little simple 11:54:15 Perfect, wonderful, awesome, all right. Well, for now I think we will wrap it there. 11:54:20 We've covered some great stuff, and there is more to come as well so, and thank you very much for coming on the show, and being an excellent guest. 11:54:28 Oh, just so, hold on a second. We may have a comments in the Youtube let me ask, okay, Jonathan. Yes, shoot. So, Mr. 11:54:36 Jonvan, first off, you should know. People are quite excited about being able to add a contact from being cold and and going through logs and doing it also, I'm sure. 11:54:45 Yeah, 2 questions. And these are likely going to have to be topics for Part 2. 11:54:48 If we do that, we have questions about, how does Ocr operate on this device? 11:54:56 Okay, and some general like, well, hold on. Is there a built-in screen? 11:55:00 Reader on the phone is how does it compare to how the iphone and Android might like it? Is it? 11:55:06 Is it in some way tailored better, and or limitations that might be relevant? 11:55:11 Yeah, so those are the 3 things people like the contacts. 11:55:15 Yeah. Ocr, yeah. And is there a built-in screen okay, so for the Ocr, we'll definitely cover that in the next session for the screen, reader, I mean, I think the general point is that you want not interacting with Ios, or with the android operating system it appears not to 11:55:26 Be, a not. Please tell us if we're wrong, but it appears to me that it's not a gesture-based screen, reader, that you would see with Voiceover, or talk badly, but it's a more explorer by touch whatever your finger slides over is going to be spoken lift to 11:55:40 actually. And then the gesture to bring up that main menu kind of drawing an L on the screen is that is that sound about right for kind of for the screen, reader. 11:55:52 Tha tha, that's that's correct. There is no need actually, for a screen, reader, because it's a voice operated operating system. 11:56:00 So it by default. It's it's already by voice, so there's no need. 11:56:04 There's not much on the screen now in the future. 11:56:07 Not every single feature is voice operated. Some of the features, you would need interact with the screen. 11:56:15 But I guess we can talk about that more, and next time 11:56:16 True, yes, all right. Good stuff. 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Vision forward, tech, connect. And with that being said, and that thank you again. 11:58:08 Audience, thank you. Very much, and you can join us alive on our show again in 2 weeks time. 11:58:13 Yeah, when we will be talking about it would be a skimming Cory baller. 11:58:18 Yes, scream, reader, you're gonna be giving me tasks on the Internet. 11:58:23 Yes, things I don't know how to do. Well, okay, things I've never done before, and I'm going to talk through how I'm doing it. 11:58:29 Yeah, so that you can have maybe a brief glimpse into the chaos that I call my head, and how I how I use a screen reader on the Internet. 11:58:38 I think it'll actually be quite informative. I think so too. 11:58:42 So yes, if you are a fledgling screen, reader. User. 11:58:45 Oh, an experience screen reader, user, or you have no interest in screen readers. 11:58:48 It doesn't matter because it's going to be entertaining, anyway, so there'll be jokes. 11:58:52 They'll be jokes, so make sure to join us in 2 weeks time for that. 11:58:55 So the official title of that is how to be a good screen reader. Person. 11:58:58 Yes, how to be a Corey valid screen reader. 11:59:01 User with a screen reader. And your name's Cork. 11:59:05 Very good title, so organ on that we really are. This opportunity to put in suggestions to the Channel as well. Oh, that's right. 11:59:13 Yeah. So if you have suggestions for what's kind of content, we should be putting on our Youtube channel. 11:59:17 Then please make sure to get those within the next week to us you can leave comments on our latest video, or you could send us an email or whatever. 11:59:25 But let us know what you'd like to see on our Youtube channel, whether you know the content is good, whether it's not good. 11:59:31 It is at the right length that the topic's good enough do with Corey, and I not tell funny enough jokes. 11:59:35 Whatever you want to say, do I need a haircut? 11:59:37 Alright, everybody! Thank you and us again. Thank you, everybody. We will see you in 2 weeks and time and goodbye for now. 11:59:46 Thank you guys, it was a pleasure 11:59:48 Well, thank you. Thank you. 11:59:58 Thanks for joining us for another tech connect, live. If you enjoyed Corey and Luke's antics, be sure to join us next time, for all things tech connect, go to vision dashboard, org tech connect

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